1. ABOUT LAST NIGHT

I participated in a Twitter space hosted by @[email protected] w/a lot of journalists

When I joined @[email protected], one of Musk's apparatchiks, was badgering @[email protected], a suspended reporter, and Jack Sweeney, the guy behind the accounts that tracked jets

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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] 2. Jason was making the point that everyone was upset about the suspension, but we need to focus on the real point: IF YOU POSTED SOMEONE'S REAL TIME LOCATION AND SOMEONE DIED WOULD YOU FEEL BAD?

Drew made the point that this was a dumb question

3. Jason kept on asking it over and over again.

I think he thought this was a great way of redirecting the conversation and making Musk seem reasonable.

IS THIS THE KIND OF SOCIETY WE WANT TO LIVE IN? WHERE PEOPLE ARE PUT IN DANGER FROM BEING UNDER CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE?

4. I finally had enough. @[email protected] invited me to be a speaker so I interrupted

My point was: THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF THE QUESTION WAS A LIE.

The suspended journalists had not reported on Musk's real-time location!

They covered the fact that he suspended Sweeny's accounts

5. I said the bigger question is whether WE WANT TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE POWERFUL PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO LIE AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH IMPUNITY AND THEN USE THESE LIES TO JUSTIFY OTHERWISE INDEFENSIBLE ACTIONS

6. My other point was we can say we are concerned about the impact of social media use on people's safety BUT THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE LIMITED TO PRIVATE JETS.

MUSK HIMSELF WAS PUTTING PEOPLE AT RISK BY MAKING WILD ACCUSATIONS, INCLUDING THAT THEY WERE PEDOPHILES

7. I didn't realize it but, in the middle of my rant, Musk himself entered the room

8. Once I realized this, I shut up so Katie and Drew could ask him questions. Musk basically ignored the questions and kept repeating, "no doxxing" and "no special rules for journalists"

When Drew pressed him, he quickly bolted.

He does not like to be challenged or questioned.

9. Shortly after Musk left, THE SPACE WAS SHUT DOWN.

In fact, ALL SPACES WERE SHUT DOWN.

They weren't fully restored until tonight.

10. What was missing from @[email protected]'s defense of Musk, and Musk's own position is CONTEXT.

Musk says he's for free speech but when people are saying things he doesn't like, he tries to shut them up.

We saw this a few weeks ago with the Musk parody accounts

11. Comedy was legal on Twitter until people started making fun of him. Then @[email protected] another Musk buddy redefined parody as "fraud" and insisted Musk was doing us all a favor.

BUT IT GOES MUCH DEEPER THAN THIS.

12. You need to fully understand Musk's LONG history of saying he is for free speech but harshly cracking down on anyone who dares to criticize him.

13. In China, Tesla reportedly sought to leverage the power of China's authoritarian regime to silence critics.

Tesla reportedly "asked Beijing to use its censorship powers to block" critical posts

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-07-05/tesla-s-fall-from-grace-in-china-shows-perils-of-betting-on-beijing?sref=LPaI0SF6

Tesla’s Fall From Grace in China Shows Perils of Betting on Beijing

Elon Musk won advantages unheard of for Western businesses. Then came the reality check.

Bloomberg

14. A free press is central to free speech.

But after reporter Linette Lopez wrote critical stories about Tesla Musk accusing Lopez of conspiring with short sellers to trade on insider information, which is a crime

Musk had no proof but an army of minions to harass Lopez

15. The right to talk about joining a union is a key part of free speech rights for workers.

Musk, however, has sought to aggressively discourage unionization at Tesla. In a 2018 tweet, Musk threatened to rescind employee stock options at Tesla if workers decided to join a union

16. The Tesla NDA instructed employees that "they were not allowed to speak w/media w/o explicit written permission." But it did not say that labor law "protects employees when they speak with the media about working conditions [and[ labor disputes"

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/25/tesla-elon-musk-anti-union-tweet-must-be-deleted-nlrb.html

Tesla ordered to have Elon Musk delete anti-union tweet

The NRLB has directed Tesla to ask Musk to remove his offending tweet, and to offer a job back to a terminated employee who participated in union organizing.

CNBC

17. In 2018, pseudo-anonymous investor, Montana Skeptic, wrote extensively about Tesla stock

But in July 2018, Montana Skeptic shut down his Twitter account and stopped writing about Tesla. Why? Musk allegedly found out the identity of Montana Skeptic and alerted their employer

18. So yes, let's talk about free speech and let's talk about safety. But Twitter is a platform that is used by hundreds of millions of people.

THE SITE'S RULES SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN BY THE QUIXOTIC INTERESTS OF ONE BILLIONAIRE

HE BOUGHT IT, BUT HE ALSO NEEDS USERS TO BUY IN

19. And Musk and his minions should stop gaslighting people about Musk being a champion of free speech.

He is not.

He is wealthy, and he bought the site.

That's it.

20. Everyone's safety is important. And it should go without saying but the people whose personal safety is most at risk on this site are not billionaires who can afford private jets and private security.
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@juddlegum you shouldn't be crossposting in the blind

@TattonTreks @juddlegum

what do you mean?

@mazal @juddlegum he’s cross posting from Twitter and not checking mentions here

@TattonTreks @juddlegum

thank you for the reply and i'm (very) sorry to be stupid but please explain why is this bad? 😬 ​

@TattonTreks @juddlegum

btw, i did do some searching on my own—i only care cuz i want to learn more about mastodon and how to be a good #mammut #citizen

@TattonTreks @juddlegum #mammut #citizen

I see that it's considered controversial & crappy behaviour..

"Some instances specifically ban this in order to prevent unmonitored "zombie" accounts filling up the Fediverse" ~ Fedi.Tips

but can you elaborate some (if you wish to/otherwise ignore 🖖​).

22. If you think I’m exaggerating, these tweets are a good summary of @[email protected]’s argument in the Twitter Space

Note: a car is not a plane and no one did this

@juddlegum I was on that space last night and this is exactly what happened.
@SustainKohala @juddlegum I was as well and you’re 100% correct this is exactly what happened
@juddlegum — Jet tracking and an incident with his kid in a car just don’t have anything to do with each other AT ALL. It’s not even a stretch. It’s just a silly argument. I’m not sure why, other than the obvious, he doesn’t seem to realize that.

@JeffreyAWard @juddlegum

I think Elmo is implying the car was at the airport, maybe the kid was just jetted home from somewhere. But he's a known liar. why isn't there a police report..

@juddlegum Oooh, is he turning on Bari? No one is safe from him.
@fionataylor @juddlegum and that is also a strong Trump feature. He will turn against anyone, including his most loyal minions, if they are no longer needed or no longer seen as loyal.
@juddlegum
I was on last night. The Fascist playbook was happening live.
Say something rediculous and then hang up!
@ElonMusk is a Fascist and Twitter cannot survive as another Right Wing Bubble. It will be another Truth Social selling Trump cards
@juddlegum very telling who deserves safety on Elon's Twitter, turns out it's billionaires with private jets.

@juddlegum

So, I assume from this exchange that Musk didn't receive the fawning, accommodative answer from his pet journalist that he expected and which would justify his predetermined consequence--based, again, upon a lie as to the actual facts of the greater situation.

If so, huh; it's like he doesn't actually care what anyone else has to say.

Who'd have thought?

@juddlegum Nobody who's stalking a celebrity (if that's what happened) would be relying on some Twitter account for tracking information. That's just stupid.
@juddlegum countdown to him calling Bari Weiss a pedo girl
@juddlegum No one was doxxing him. What can't people understand about that?
@Nanakim @juddlegum The flight tracker is PUBLIC INFO. His entire argument is nonsense.
@MGoCoder Exactly. It's was just a fluke, or perhaps a stunt by Musk himself, that someone accosted the car his son was in. Flight trackers don't track cars. Apparently the world's dumbest smart guy doesn't want to believe that.
Does Elon not realize the more attention he gives this plan tracker, the more people are gonna look at it? 😂
@juddlegum the man is obviously doing the same drugs Trump and SBF are

@juddlegum (1) "you're just virtue signaling" is always and without fail the argument of degenerates

(2) what makes this 20x funnier is that he said this about WARI BEISS. she devotes her life to vice signaling, usually about mainstream media outlets, and this is how they repay her lol

John Scott-Railton on Twitter

“BREAKING: Journalist Linette Lopez is suspended. She has reported for years about Elon's dubious business practices at Tesla. Her sources have previously been targeted by private spies hired by Musk.”

Twitter
24. Musk is concerned about privacy and safety
@juddlegum Everyone needs to quit him. Yesterday was best, today is good, tomorrow is a bad idea.
@juddlegum. Huh. Just a coincidence, I'm sure:
@juddlegum the fact that Musk has this much time to comment on and antagonize people on the bird app makes me wonder who is running the businesses. This doesn't seem very "hardcore" to me
@juddlegum
But not the privacy and safety of others
25. UPDATE: Katie, who hosted the space, is banned from starting any spaces now, apparently https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1603886760437522433
Katie Notopoulos on Twitter

“It seems my account is banned… but only from Spaces. (This is what I get if I try to join or start a Space)”

Twitter

@juddlegum

I heard ALL Spaces were deactivated, but I don't know if that's true.

@juddlegum He's a vindictive little halfwit...But don't forget Ella Irwin's role in all this...Someone should check her numerous LLCs...
@juddlegum unfortunately not surprised. I hope the EU bans that dumpster fire asap

@juddlegum some of us in 50 years: and then Space Karen banned Spaces because he claimed he was being doxxed.

Our kids: sure Grandma let's get you back to bed.

@juddlegum no one censors like the fragile right
@qualityhammer @juddlegum there’s no fragile snowflake like a conservative snowflake. Which are overvalued at a dime a dozen.
26. More reporting from Gizmodo that Musk’s entire justification for the suspension of journalists is BS
@juddlegum Who could ever have guessed that Elon was an asshole from the start?
@juddlegum unlike Trump, who has been lying his way through life for decades and has obviously built up the mental walls to shield himself from breakdown… I do wonder about EMs mental state as his behaviour seems to be worsening.
@chrisale @juddlegum EM now claims he was always a Republican. It seems who EM is now, is who he's always been, the difference is the manufactured facade that has managed Musk's public face has been pushed away from Musk by Musk. His PR bros have done such a great burnishing that Musk believes his own hype. He's not mentally ill, per se, he's a manbaby used to being surrounded by fawning fanboys now having a public tantrum when he can't have his spoiled way.
@juddlegum @pattykimura no argument with any of that. Though I still hold open the possibility that there is a worsening that is occurring. He is an isolated, socially underdevelopment, weirdo. Howard Hughes for the 21st century.
@chrisale @pattykimura @juddlegum
I can send him a Blu-Ray of ICE STATION ZEBRA and a link to a supply house for giant piss jars, but he’s going to have to take his own damn clothes off when watches the movie over and over while laying naked on his bed.
@pattykimura @chrisale @juddlegum it made sense for his business to claim to be a Democrat since that's the people providing subsidies and the core demographic buying teslas and solar panels
@juddlegum What — yet another sociopathic lying billionaire?!?
@juddlegum The worst part of covering habitual liars like Musk and Trump is the press coming to each new claim in good faith. This isn't a productive way to cover fabulists.
@juddlegum I’ve lost 2000 followers to be here, can you help me get followers? Please
@juddlegum plus, the last ElonJets post, before the incident, said he was in a different city 😂😭
@juddlegum Keep shining a light on his BS Judd! Need is reporting this morning that he reversed his bans
@juddlegum Elon is lying about what he does and this tracker exposes his constant lying he is sure not spending anytime Tesla SpaceX shitter
@juddlegum Musk put countless people in crosshairs when he dismantled the bare minimum safety net of Twit. Now he's trying to use this as a shield. He wants it both ways like most on the Right.
@juddlegum musk is clearly trying to purge anyone who doesn’t agree with his draconian thinking.
I was on twitter for many years…no suspensions, no bans. After musk took over…within 3 weeks my account was “permanently suspended” ?
Free Speech?? No.