Passenger railway network 2020

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@conradhackett Fantastic figure, although we New Zealanders would prefer to be part of *Australasia* than *Australia*. 😉
@joncounts @conradhackett was going to point that out, but it’s probably best coming from a Kiwi tbh
@conradhackett Nobody lives in Australia though, so that's okay
@almodozo @conradhackett yeah, I mean, that’s not even a real place, it’s kinda like Gotham city but a fake island nation. It’s fine to be shitty if it’s not even real. 🙂
@conradhackett https://digipres.club/@tltroup/109515602538712048 Interesting additional layer of the importance of rail travel to consider. I often think first of the climate impact but there are historical reasons to be concerned about the racial justice impacts of less rail travel as well, though the importance of rail for information exchange today is naturally much less than in the timeline of the post I linked above.
@conradhackett such a shame. I'm a frequent rider on the #Wolverine. I get from #AnnArbor to #Chicago in the same time it takes to drive, yet I don't have to drive (and there's WiFi and hot water for my #tea ). I wish I could take the #train to more places.
@jeffhuman @conradhackett Agreed! A2 to Chicago is a good train route. I wish there were more routes out of southeast #Michigan that went southward (#Indianapolis or #Cincinnati ) or eastward (#Pittsburgh )
@losfromcp @conradhackett or Toronto. It's a shame the continent's fourth largest city is closer than the fifth and yet your only option to get there is by car in a reasonable 4ish hours or by public transit in 10. I suppose international travel complicates things a bit, but it's not like our relationship with our northern neighbor is strained.
@conradhackett those are not to scale.
@denebeim @conradhackett yeah missing metro rail networks and even regional rail lines in Australia
@denebeim @conradhackett i thought the same thing. It's hard to compare density of the scale is unstable and has no reference.

@denebeim @conradhackett THANK YOU. I’ve attached a better map.

And here is Wikipedia’s list of countries by rail network size: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_rail_transport_network_size

List of countries by rail transport network size - Wikipedia

@mjgardner @conradhackett that's better.

The logistics are much more difficult in the USA. Our population density is much lower on average than Europe, so you'd end up needing lines way longer with no stops.
Or a bunch of stops that aren't used. I mean we had that when I was young. The interstates are better since they serve rural areas betterish.

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To tackle the climate crisis, we have to reduce cars on the roads. But we won't be able to do that until our passenger railways look more like Europe's. Environmentalists don't get that. Biden does.
@conradhackett Why are railway networks of Mexico and China not shown?
@conradhackett Indian network is dense but still not enough for the population.

@conradhackett Just found this, which might explain the current paucity of rail network in NA.

Answer to Have lobbyists for the oil and auto industry defeated any chance of an American high speed rail system? by Colin Alter
https://www.quora.com/Have-lobbyists-for-the-oil-and-auto-industry-defeated-any-chance-of-an-American-high-speed-rail-system/answer/Colin-Alter?ch=15&oid=153959223&share=d4fd7200&srid=hd6Ywv&target_type=answer

Have lobbyists for the oil and auto industry defeated any chance of an American high speed rail system?

Colin Alter's answer: The long answer requires understanding a bit of US history around and after World War 2. The lobbyists for the oil and auto industry were not that active in lobbying Congress before the beginning of World War 2. The part of that war against Japan necessitated the rapid grow...

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@conradhackett Would also like to see it equally scaled for area.
@conradhackett to emphasise what was discussed in another 🧵
@conradhackett what I wouldn’t give for an extensive railway system across North America (and, for that matter, through Central and South America as well). It’s one of the big things about Europe that has really attracted me to the idea of living there one of these days.

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For Australia, that is not even remotely correct. There are far more passenger networks than that and, while not fantastic, for a country that has the population of LA in a land mass of the USA, it isn't too bad. But could be a LOT better.

@conradhackett Australia is even worse than that map looks, as the two longest runs are very expensive luxury tourist operations.
@conradhackett I can't attest to accuracy of the map other than to say the lower left image is not southeast Asia but rather south Asia and Myanmar.
@conradhackett I always hoped USA would have high-speed rail service.
I once signed a petition to have such a service but it went nowhere.
Why? What was the problem?
@conradhackett wish we had a viable rail system that was extensive around the US. Our argument is “we’re too big!” And that is exactly why we should have it.
@conradhackett The Australia one pretty much tracks population density. Outside the arc along the coast from Queensland to South Australia there's basically nobody outside Perth and Darwin.
@conradhackett American pundits: "Why should we expand the railway networks? Nobody uses them." Same litany you hear about public transit light rail in practically every US city.
@conradhackett Weird that the Open Train Project doesn't seem to know about the existence of the Warrnambool or Bairnsdale lines
@conradhackett A map of Australia emphasising where the population actually lives shows the rail network is quite a bit more relevant than a straight geo map of the outback might have you believe.
Like this….
https://railmaps.com.au/australian_rail_map_all_stations_2022_11_15.pdf