Mike Masnick ✅For the first time in my life I've gone private over on the other site. I don't know if I'll keep it that way, but I've seen too much bad faith nonsense going on, and it's just not worth dealing with right now.
Mike E. Schmee@mmasnick sorry to say, but it’s never going back over there. It will only get worse. Plan for leaving for good.
Michael@mmasnick I'm finally considering deleting my account over there. All this recent stuff has been a tipping point, and now that there are so many of my friends here, or at the very least, people I want to see, there's not much keeping me there.
@TacticalGrace_ @mmasnick I miss it dearly but it’s been destined for dead since he signed the papers in April. I deleted my multiple accounts a few weeks ago. I miss them/it, but nothing I can’t live without.
@mikeeschmee @mmasnick The reason I have hung on, is that many of my disabled friends are highly reliant on the wide reaching social circles they've built up, and replicating those here will take time. Replicating the reach may be impossible, so I stay for them, to help transition as many over as I can, and to amplify them there in the meantime.
Frida Kahlua🌊🇺🇲🇵🇭🇺🇦@TacticalGrace_ @mikeeschmee @mmasnick You need to help them move out. Staying there giving him business to bully people to the point that his minions are harassing who he bullies. Not right.
@FridaKahlua @mmasnick @mikeeschmee It isn't that simple. Over there they have massive amounts of reach that extends far beyond their small circle of friends. They don't have that here, and they literally rely on it to live. Between a rock and a fascist nazi enabler, to coin a phrase.
Jeroen Baert@mmasnick The discourse about the Twitter Files was so, so, so tiring.
Marc Hedlund@mmasnick it’s like watching something get sucked into a black hole in a movie.
Anathema Device@mmasnick i don't anyone decent should have anything to do with that site now. I don't care how valuable it is as a news source. It's a toxic, dangerous mess and participating at all, even just by logging in, is improving Elmo's stats. It needs to be shunned.
Robbie Coleman@mmasnick the struggle is that only a narrow segment of the connections I have on the bird site, have migrated to the fediverse.
@erraggy yes. though, at least for me it's been growing pretty quickly.
But after seeing multiple friends brigaded and attacked by complete fucking morons, it seemed like something worth doing.
@mmasnick it's like the building is burning and we just want them all to make it out. I'm surprised at just how quickly he's set it aflame 🔥
Stefan Ferreira 🏳️🌈
Judith_IP@mmasnick Yeah I've been thinking of doing that as well. It is broken, and going down to a very bad place. Not going to delete (which would enable reuse of the name), but might delete all posts & go private.
Brewster KahleIf the press leave "the other side", then I think it will just be parler or discord groups. like minded communities, but not igniting trends that are then amplified by the press, thus soliciting more flamethrowers.
I wonder if the press can go back to reporting the old ways, or find new ways.
What I hope for is a broader range of topics handled by the press and society-- this way we can solve problems in parallel.
I can hope.
OpenDNA⚙️@brewsterkahle @mmasnick Very literally, I see members of the press deliberating between Mastodon's journalist-oriented instances and PostNews.
One has the familiar VC backing and a promise of tie-ins with advertisers and publishers, the other offers (potential) moderation and audience. I suspect the feature set of Mastodon wins, if their employers make the slightest efforts to use them.
Kathryn Tewson@mmasnick As I said over there, it’s starting to feel like when you’re at a dive bar you’ve been drinking at for years and you look around and realize there’s a Nazi at the bar.
@kathryntewson more than one, it seems.
@mmasnick and the bartender is chatting him up.
Half Cocked Law@kathryntewson @mmasnick Insert thread about why a bartender kicked out the polite Nazi on sight.
@halfcocked @mmasnick exactly, EXACTLY what I was thinking.
Bornach@halfcocked @kathryntewson @mmasnick
You're referring to this thread?
https://www.upworthy.com/bartender-explains-why-he-swiftly-kicks-nazis-out-of-his-punk-bar-even-if-theyre-not-bothering-anyone
What Michael B. Tager didn't realise was that the zero tolerance approach to Nazis would rile up a "free speech absolutist" billionaire into buying the bar, firing all the staff, then go on to accuse the previous management of being a pedo
@kathryntewson in this case, the bartender seems to be giving the Nazi free drinks, whispering, laughing and pointing at you. Which, you know, seems like time to leave.
Andrew McDiarmid@mmasnick @kathryntewson Now imagine you used to work there and you hear the bartender call your friend, the former bouncer, a "groomer"...
@andwewmcd @mmasnick it’s a nightmare.
PhoenixWomanMNI signed up for the Spoutible.com pre-beta and will lock my Twitter account as soon as I get onto Spoutible and can confirm that it works.
I won't do Post, not after seeing how they intend to use their Posters. I like Mastodon, but I feel like I'm imposing on the server owners. Spoutible looks like it's going to be everything that Twitter should have been from the start.
STEMTheBleeding@kathryntewson @mmasnick I described it as "Twitter was like your favorite neighborhood pub. But now the live band has been switched for Nickelback karaoke, the craft beer for Bud light, and the worldly bartender for some asshole named Chad."
Dan@STEMtheBleeding @kathryntewson @mmasnick
Twitter was like your favourite comic/sci-fi con.
But now the celeb signing tables only have Shatner, Kevin Sorbo, John Voight, and Scott Baio. The door guards force every woman who enters to prove they are “real fans”. The only products in artist alley are NFTs where the sellers openly steal the images while you wait.
Twitter was like your favourite comic/sci-fi con.
But now the celeb signing tables only have Shatner, Kevin Sorbo, John Voight, and Scott Baio. The door guards force every woman who enters to prove they are “real fans”. The only products in artist alley are NFTs where the sellers openly steal the images while you wait.
Crystal Huff (they/them)@Danielsand @STEMtheBleeding @kathryntewson @mmasnick ouch, that is so accurate that it's painful. 😭
Blue Mage@STEMtheBleeding @kathryntewson @mmasnick Southern Alberta would just like to say "Ouch" after that.
rateexportpilot@kathryntewson @mmasnick It reminds me of a blues bar in Hoboken I used to hang out in that eventually changed owners. They immediately put up a bunch of TVs and put beer pong tables in. All the musicians left shortly after.
Aphrodite (recharging)if not for a functional need to keep that channel open there would be no traffic to that fowl site from any of my devices
@Aphrodite @mmasnick
I use https://nitter.evil.site/ to lurk a select few people that I used to follow there. The site indirection and sanitization prevents me from providing any useful interaction with
I basically treat the site in the same way as an RSS feed now
I use https://nitter.evil.site/ to lurk a select few people that I used to follow there. The site indirection and sanitization prevents me from providing any useful interaction with
I basically treat the site in the same way as an RSS feed now
this one guy@mmasnick just went private, left a message with my address here, and deleted the app from my phone. every view we give to elmo's web page helps his cause. best thing we can do is leave
TC Won't Give In To Lies@mmasnick
Just leave the Birdsite
Why keep giving Musk free content, user info and real people to sell to advertizers?
@TCatInReality I find it weird how people feel free to tell others what to do. Please consider that people may have reasons for what they do.
@mmasnick
Sure. Happy to hear your reasons, if you care to share.
But at a macro level, I am proud to highlight how the bird site is unsafe. Each day there provides:
- free content for Musk
- cover for his disinfo
- justification to advertisers
- another chance to radicalise you
So please don’t jump on me for pointing out the dangers and asking you to stop feeding the hate-for-profit machine. I do it from a place of caring.
@mmasnick I don't have faith in the new management. Social interactions are not just a matter of engineering. I'm supporting this instance on Patreon for this account to hedge my bets but I really don't think it's a matter of hedging as much as it's a train wreck over there and we're witnessing the crash in slow motion.
donkey@mmasnick @glynmoody decided to do that today myself. Feels like a slow extrication…
Kyle Cassidy@mmasnick it's just gotten insane over there. i forget now even what my timeline looked like when i enjoyed it.
Hughster@mmasnick I've been on private for 3 weeks, the longest ever since I joined in 2009. I've only posted a handful of anti-Musk RTs.
The only reason I'm reluctant to delete is lots of useful research threads I'd want to put on WayBack first.
amro@mmasnick good luck, thanks for being a voice of reason+truth around all this, esp where others are less able to speak freely
AlGRhythm@mmasnick I deep-sixed my account.
@mmasnick same. I thought maybe it could be worth my time to maintain a minimal presence there. Even to just make fun of him for how poorly a job he is doing. To laugh at his ineptitude.
But yesterday was the straw for me. I cannot support somone like him. Especially after that bigoted, homophobic, anti-trans, anti-vax tirade.
So I made my account private and I am not going back.
But yesterday was the straw for me. I cannot support somone like him. Especially after that bigoted, homophobic, anti-trans, anti-vax tirade.
So I made my account private and I am not going back.
@mmasnick
It seems I was not alone in this decision. A lot of my friends and several of the biggest accounts I follow did the same this week. So much so that a vast majority of my feed over the weekend was only a small handful of accounts. Most of the replies I saw across Twitter (and my mentions) were from people who would be at home on Gab.
It really felt like Twitter hit some sort of critical mass of trolls, bots and alt-right accounts yesterday. So I am glad I left.
It seems I was not alone in this decision. A lot of my friends and several of the biggest accounts I follow did the same this week. So much so that a vast majority of my feed over the weekend was only a small handful of accounts. Most of the replies I saw across Twitter (and my mentions) were from people who would be at home on Gab.
It really felt like Twitter hit some sort of critical mass of trolls, bots and alt-right accounts yesterday. So I am glad I left.
@mmasnick I’m not going to delete my account. Because I don’t want to give that petulant child chatting up Nazis access to give my name to one of his cult members. Plus I want to make sure that my friends can follow me here.
@mmasnick Maybe I am too isolated, but this weekend really felt like Twitter’s Digg moment. The moment everyone decided to leave.
So far today none of my follows (except the automated accounts) have posted. That’s very unusual.
So far today none of my follows (except the automated accounts) have posted. That’s very unusual.
JD@mmasnick I was banned on twitter so I went there to see your takes on the “files”. Will you be doing as much here?
Gojira1000@mmasnick I just cleaned up and deactivated at last. Feels good.
Zach Weigand@mmasnick seriously thinking about this myself.
Caring Heart@mmasnick I think that was a good move. I am feeling really sad about Musk tweets esp. the latest Dr. Fauci and Covid ones.
Musk's Twitter is just such a giant disappointment. I don't feel like fighting with _______(idk right name to call them) even though I feel push back is needed. I try to at least like the tweets of others who have pushed back to help them get seen. It didn't have to be this way. Sigh...
Musk's Twitter is just such a giant disappointment. I don't feel like fighting with _______(idk right name to call them) even though I feel push back is needed. I try to at least like the tweets of others who have pushed back to help them get seen. It didn't have to be this way. Sigh...
@mmasnick
P.S. Justine Musk (his ex) just posted this article on Twitter along with this Tweet.
"Many things contribute to lack of empathy, including + especially the belief that 'empathy' is for sissies, snowflakes, + people who watch Oprah.
Empathy is not a fucking weakness."
https://hbr.org/2015/04/becoming-powerful-makes-you-less-empathetic
Kyle R. Conway@mmasnick It continues to be surprising to me just how quickly things can fall apart, and how. Wild.