Henning SchwentnerHey #DDDesign community, I think it’s great that many of us have found our way to the fediverse and enjoying it. Maybe now is the time for a next step. Other communities have started their own Mastodon servers like phpc.social, ruby.social, or agilealliance.social. What do you think—should we have our own server (like ddd.social or mastoddd.one) as well?
@philipmay @mstine @ewolff @carolali @VaughnVernon @bitboss @mo @wps @janekf @oliver Thanks for all your answers! Many diverse ideas here 😃 Paging @ntcoding @TonyBologni @Heimeshoff @mathiasverraes @hofstef @yellowbrickc @yreynhout @dylanbeattie @JulieLerman @zsofideaz @Cyriux @tPl0ch @kenny_baas @joaorosa @weltraumpirat @ddoomen @trondhjort @martinschimak Do you have an opinion on this? 🙂
@philipmay @mstine @ewolff @carolali @VaughnVernon @bitboss @mo @janekf @oliver @ntcoding @TonyBologni @yellowbrickc To summarize some of the discussion: so if mastodon.social and the like are too broad and ddd.social would be to narrow, would it then make sense that we join @indu and @nova (and also @kentbeck and @pragdave) and move over to Hachyderm?
Vaughn Vernon 🟦 🟨 🟧 🟪@hschwentner @philipmay @mstine @ewolff @carolali @bitboss @mo @janekf @oliver @ntcoding @TonyBologni @yellowbrickc @indu @nova @kentbeck @pragdave
No strong opinion here, but it seems like moving to a different server still limits options because you'll never have "everyone" there and topics will be limited by those who are there.
Besides, what does hachyderm mean? (I got a skin cancer scan on Wednesday and that's what comes to mind.) The only description I find is that it's a group of 'respectful tech professionals.' That's good. Still, I'd like to know more about why it's the place to be. (My choice for tilde.zone was based on finding a server that was accepting new accounts when others were closed due to heavy influx.)
Jeff Goldschrafe@VaughnVernon Respectfully, your question starts from the mistaken idea that Nóva's free, volunteer-run service cares whether you use it or not. People join this community because they like the people and the admins. Nobody has anything to sell you.
@shiftleftist @nova Thanks. I know that. A question was possed that perhaps a group of individuals interested in some set of tech topics should move to hachyderm. My thoughts expressed the "why should I do that when I would still have to follow people not on hachyderm?" I don't mind doing so, but I don't know how that would "solve" the fediverse when it's not supposed to be "solved."
Context matters.
Steve Bate@VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova I understand the question about moving. No matter which instance you choose, it's likely there will be accounts you want to follow on other instances. However, if there's a concentration of accounts with similar interests on a specific instance, moving to that instance may have local timeline and search (which is not federated) advantages.
Brian Campbell@VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova So, there are a couple of things that you choose when you choose an instance:
* Admin team
* Mod team (sometimes same as admin)
* Local and global feeds
The admin team determines whether the infrastructure is reliable and efficient.
The mod team can affect what you can say and who you can talk to.
The local and global feeds are ways of discovering discussions outside your follows, but can be useless if too big/unfocused
@VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova so to choose an instance, take a look at who the admin is, if they have any public info about how they keep the infra running, how they fund it, etc
Look at the moderators and mod policy; do they match with your moderation expectations? Will they allow trolls to make your life miserable? Will they cut you off from someone you want to follow because of some beef with the admin of that instance?
@VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova and then go check out the local and global feeds on the instance. Search for hashtags you are interested in on them. These are a few methods of discovery on Mastodon. On big, general purpose instances, I've found the local and global feeds too noisy to be useful. On Hachyderm, it's a focused enough community that I find conversations to join on the local feed fairly often, though the global feed is still a bit noisy.
@VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova so yeah, federation means that choosing an instance doesn't lock you in; you can still follow people from other instances, as long as the mods haven't defederated from them. But the admins and mods are a lot more visible and involved in Mastodon than something like Twitter, and who you share an instance with affects your local and global feeds.
Rich Lafferty 🐀@unlambda @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova I'd add a little color to that by calling the mod team "trust and safety".
Admins make sure the system is available, secure, and running well, mod team makes sure it's a safe place for its users.
I moved here because I have a ton of confidence in @nova and @quintessence's approach to governance.
Matt Stine@mendel @unlambda @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova @quintessence
I'm going to try to simplify this for you.
If you like the server you are on, you probably shouldn't move. If you move, it's unlikely that your experience will improve. It's far more likely to degrade.
Slice and dice that however you like with operational excellence, trust and safety, relevance of local feed, etc.
@mendel @unlambda @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova @quintessence
I am not on hachyderm.io, but from all of @nova's operational transparency, it's obviously one of the best. I probably would be there had I not chosen @SDF first and fell in love with the place.