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MimiRocah1I’m not sure people understand how terrifying things are for American Jews right now. Like many, my father barely escaped the nazis. So the fact that antisemitism is being normalized right now & NOT denounced by every leader of the 2 major political parties is frightening. We need to know our govt & our institutions will keep us safe & we aren’t sure now. This is a common feeling amongst Am. Jews right now. Please take the time to understand the fear & demand your leaders denounce it.
Cardboard Robot@Mimirocah1 (Not to mention many other groups in or about to be in the cross-hairs)
Saeed@CardboardRobot @Mimirocah1 yes I agree; there are other groups in the cross hairs: “immigrants”, “LGBTQ+”, “anyone with a view slightly left of Mitt Romney who dares express it openly”, and anyone else who can serve as the “other” to direct hate towards, and hide what is really going on (in plain sight btw, not in some secret cabal, obscured by disinformation, but not secret)
@Mimirocah1 Reading my reply again, I realized there was a possibility it might be read in a sarcastic or negative light, or as minimizing the horror and outrage you (and hopefully we all) feel.
Just for clarity sake, It was 100% meant as a reminder (if only to myself) that we’re all in this together.
@CardboardRobot thank you
JHadleyC@Mimirocah1 Please. Call out the Republicans.
rsppeacemama ☮️✡️💜🇺🇦@Mimirocah1 thank you for speaking this out loud. 🙏💙🙏
@Mimirocah1 all Americans unless you’re a twitthead or a trumper.
Some Pinko Commie@lazystreet779 @Mimirocah1 but you repeat yourself.
Elizabeth@lazystreet779 @Mimirocah1 This is not really the same thing as being a vulnerable minority that are actively under attack and being demonized, threatened, and murdered irl. The rw violence is being directed at specific groups, like the Jews and trans communities, like LGBTQ being called "groomers". I'm sure you get this but please don't minimize where the threats and violence are being directed.
@Mimirocah1 Thank you for writing that. My Jewish friends have all been so very silent I did not know what to make of it. Thank you for speaking up!
@batyalee 🌿@SimpleVitality @Mimirocah1 You can ask people how they feel about what's happening. It might be a relief for your Jewish friends to know you notice the increased threats of domestic terrorism against Jews/Jewish institutions and are troubled by it.
@batyalee Thanks!!
Rabbi Jill Zimmerman@Mimirocah1 it is insane & I can’t believe we are here. They need to denounce it right now as well as fund domestic terrorism support. Thank you Mimi for moving this sad truth. The only way to stamp this out is swiftly & without equivocation. Not enough leaders are doing it. It is terrifying.
Melody Cooper@rabbijill @Mimirocah1 I agree, 100%. And I have to add that when white supremacy and domestic terrorist groups were rearing their ugly heads 20 years ago and then during the Obama administration, many people didn’t stand up against it the way they should. I could never understand why. But now I wonder if there was a fearful “keep your head down” mentality to attract as little hatred towards another group. But eventually, evil allowed to grow will come for everybody.
Patricia Lavatai@MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1
Yes, people need to stand against evil, but it is more complicated than that. Most people are not so afraid for themselves, but for the fact that they have families. The kind of people doing these things are cowards, they will not go after the vocal, but rather children and pets of those who speak against them. They are not above hurting innocents in retaliation for push back.
Yes, people need to stand against evil, but it is more complicated than that. Most people are not so afraid for themselves, but for the fact that they have families. The kind of people doing these things are cowards, they will not go after the vocal, but rather children and pets of those who speak against them. They are not above hurting innocents in retaliation for push back.
Melissa@PJLavatai @MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1
TBF I think the Jewish folk and others in their crosshairs are innocents, too.
I'm disabled. I constantly see people ignore eugenics and hate against us.
If you think you're afraid while doing/saying nothing, imagine how afraid your Jewish or LGBTQ neighbors feel.
I don't want Jewish friends/ community members to have unchallenged hate directed at them.
I haven't ever seen anyone say their kid/pet was attacked for what they said online.
@PJLavatai @rabbijill
@Mimirocah1
I guess. But as a Black person who is an activist and whose parents lived through the violence of the civil rights movement and ancestors survived the violence of Jim Crow and slavery, I’m trying to understand how not fighting against evil that comes for you and your people would protect your children. My parents fought like hell BECAUSE they had children and wanted a better world for us. Silence often dooms families.
@Mimirocah1
I guess. But as a Black person who is an activist and whose parents lived through the violence of the civil rights movement and ancestors survived the violence of Jim Crow and slavery, I’m trying to understand how not fighting against evil that comes for you and your people would protect your children. My parents fought like hell BECAUSE they had children and wanted a better world for us. Silence often dooms families.
@MelodyCooper @PJLavatai @Mimirocah1 Silence is complicity. When they come for one of us, they come for all of us. And I so agree - we fight because of our families. When I spoke out about anti immigrant hate, they came for me, not my kids. But I knew I had to keep speaking - FOR my kids
@rabbijill @PJLavatai
@Mimirocah1
Yes! And if you threaten my kids and my pet, I will double down! I stand for my Jewish brothers and sisters, LGBTQ+, disabled, immigrant, indigenous and all the marginalized who are unfairly persecuted. I see their fight as mine. When we stand with each other, we are most powerful at beating back antisemitism, racism, sexism, intolerance and white supremacy. They try to divide us. I say Stand Strong.
@Mimirocah1
Yes! And if you threaten my kids and my pet, I will double down! I stand for my Jewish brothers and sisters, LGBTQ+, disabled, immigrant, indigenous and all the marginalized who are unfairly persecuted. I see their fight as mine. When we stand with each other, we are most powerful at beating back antisemitism, racism, sexism, intolerance and white supremacy. They try to divide us. I say Stand Strong.
The Alchemist@MelodyCooper @PJLavatai @Mimirocah1 I stand with you. It’s all the same fight. None of us are free until all of us are free.
@MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1
I stand for all too, but I am not a public person with a public platform.
I have no problem speaking out, but I do know that some, especially young, single women with young children, may not. Radicals have often targeted the children of their opponents, and it is a mother’s deepest instinct to protect her children.
If you have the courage to stand for the marginalized, they are also who you are standing for.
I stand for all too, but I am not a public person with a public platform.
I have no problem speaking out, but I do know that some, especially young, single women with young children, may not. Radicals have often targeted the children of their opponents, and it is a mother’s deepest instinct to protect her children.
If you have the courage to stand for the marginalized, they are also who you are standing for.
@PJLavatai @rabbijill @Mimirocah1 Yes, and not everyone can take a stand in the same way, depending on the situation. When I was a young single mom, I was out there taking a stand, but I understand that may not be possible for everyone. There are simple, quiet ways to step up, from donating to orgs to being compassionate to someone who rarely sees it. And you should report folks to authorities when they make threats (unless that’s who’s threatening you!)
Chernynkaya@rabbijill @MelodyCooper @PJLavatai @Mimirocah1 Exactly this! I have been so encouraged by the black community (and other groups) expressing solidarity with we Jews. OTOH, it’s depressing that some in marginalized groups complain “what about OUR history? Threats against US?!”— as if we are not all canaries in the coal mines.
@FeliceBachrach @rabbijill @PJLavatai @Mimirocah1 True. Though I am also quick to point out that there are many Jewish people who did not take a stand against the very groups who are attacking them now when those white supremacy groups came for Black and Brown people in this decade and the one before. It works both ways and is difficult to admit, but ESSENTIAL if the lessons that will save us all are to be learned.
@[email protected]@[email protected] @PJLavatai @Mimirocah1 we must all stand together - for every kind of hate. It comes from the same root. There’s just no question about it for me.
Happy1@rabbijill @MelodyCooper @Mimirocah1
Exactly.
Thank you for understanding that some of us stand in the background…but we stand no less.
Exactly.
Thank you for understanding that some of us stand in the background…but we stand no less.
@MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1
You are braver than many then.
Some are literally surrounded by people who have shown they can and will get to their loved ones, grandchildren….so they are careful about how they support resistance. There are ways to do so that draw less attention, and some must take that path. Some heroes of resistance against the NAZIS did so behind the lines and quietly because that was the only power they had.
You are braver than many then.
Some are literally surrounded by people who have shown they can and will get to their loved ones, grandchildren….so they are careful about how they support resistance. There are ways to do so that draw less attention, and some must take that path. Some heroes of resistance against the NAZIS did so behind the lines and quietly because that was the only power they had.
@PJLavatai @rabbijill @Mimirocah1 100% and I consider that fighting. There are many ways of taking a stand. People assume that means you are on the street with your fist raised and having rocks thrown at you. It can be through a powerful and inspiring anonymous piece of art or song. It can be in the way you raise your children to not hate. It can be in the way you secretly hack into a system that is being used to threaten others. Multi-pronged & United.
@MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1
Thank you. Just because we are not seen, does not mean we are not here.
Thank you. Just because we are not seen, does not mean we are not here.
@MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1
I will take this opportunity to causation that the “Freedom of Speech” thing Elon is doing with Twitter is bringing the hateful element to Twitter, while those of us who speak out with facts get banned (yes,took one day). This means all those who stand gains the rhetoric are running to places where they can be easily found and identified.
I will take this opportunity to causation that the “Freedom of Speech” thing Elon is doing with Twitter is bringing the hateful element to Twitter, while those of us who speak out with facts get banned (yes,took one day). This means all those who stand gains the rhetoric are running to places where they can be easily found and identified.
@MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1
P.S. I did the street thing years ago when I was young. It pissed me off that I am seeing the same old shit again.
One way to help defeat this b.s. is ranked choice voting…..which can break the back of two party politics and stop the reign of career politicians.
P.S. I did the street thing years ago when I was young. It pissed me off that I am seeing the same old shit again.
One way to help defeat this b.s. is ranked choice voting…..which can break the back of two party politics and stop the reign of career politicians.
@MelodyCooper @rabbijill @Mimirocah1 Those years also included the ignoring of out-of-control corporate greed and income inequalities. Most people in power didn't want to dwell on those vexing issues.
@rabbijill @Mimirocah1
What we need to understand is that the extremists that are being mobilized are religious extremists. The lives they are living suck, but they are promised a heaven in which they will rule over imagined enemies. This is no different than any other religious extremism…it is just closer to home and the religion more familiar.
What we need to understand is that the extremists that are being mobilized are religious extremists. The lives they are living suck, but they are promised a heaven in which they will rule over imagined enemies. This is no different than any other religious extremism…it is just closer to home and the religion more familiar.
Noelle@Mimirocah1 I can only imagine. I feel some fear but I am white nonJewish. The atmosphere of threat & violence toward Jewish community with ramped up openly antisemitic speech by celebrities & the constant implied antisemitic speech by politicians is stochastic terrorism. We must find a way to stop it. Elon Musk opening the floodgates on Twitter allowing Hate speech is worsening.
Danielle Solzman 🎥✡️🎬@Mimirocah1 Both party leaders of the House and Senate participated in last year's rally that was put on by the ADL. What's saddening is how McCarthy is now appealing to Trump's base by saying he'll restore MTG and Gosar to their committee seats. https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/virtual-rally-to-denounce-antisemitism-unites-pelosi-schumer-mccarthy-and-mcconnell
Pankhurst2@Mimirocah1
So very sorry for the historic pain being revived by the worse of America. Your communities have been attacked and threatened.
Asian, Black, Brown and the LGBTQ communities have all suffered at the hands of their rhetoric. We must all stand together and not allow fascism to rise here-they have done this before and were stopped. They must be stopped again.
So very sorry for the historic pain being revived by the worse of America. Your communities have been attacked and threatened.
Asian, Black, Brown and the LGBTQ communities have all suffered at the hands of their rhetoric. We must all stand together and not allow fascism to rise here-they have done this before and were stopped. They must be stopped again.
CyberWolf⚡🌈🤠🐺@Mimirocah1 Its a scary time for most groups that have been "othered" by Republicans. Jewish and LGTBQ communities are at the top of the lists. Dont sit back and take it though. If you feel comfortable, take self-defense course, or start using that 2A. Its not just for the Right.
Dont wait for the busted doors. Make sure you have a plan to leave: passport, support that would help you either IRL or online, small saving fund if financially able
Most important to remember- You are not alone here.
@CyberWolf1013 @Mimirocah1
When you put all the groups they have “othered”, it is pretty clear that we “others” have to stand together. Socialists, Liberals, Women, POC, LGBTQ, Muslims, Jews, (basically any non Christian) make up a far larger portion of Americans than old cis white men.
When you put all the groups they have “othered”, it is pretty clear that we “others” have to stand together. Socialists, Liberals, Women, POC, LGBTQ, Muslims, Jews, (basically any non Christian) make up a far larger portion of Americans than old cis white men.
LadyL@PJLavatai @CyberWolf1013 @Mimirocah1 As a member of a group that has been othered, I understand this fear. I am afraid too but I stand with you united. We must not let hate win.
Robb Aley Allan@Mimirocah1 My wife is a born New Yorker with long roots to NY real estate and theatre. We now live in FL and she is very reluctant to go back: if post-pandemic crime weren't enough, increasing anti-semitism has made her nervous to travel.
Thales@Mimirocah1 I don’t think that these “leaders” are going to do anything. We pay them taxes so they do some god damn work, and instead they’re shrugging things off to “abide” by the laws, while also breaking them when it’s convenient for them behind closed doors.
Meanwhile, the other wing worms their way to even avoid criminal charges and penalties while being caught red handed, and nothing is done about it. If that isn’t ineptitude, i don’t know what is. I wouldn’t be surprised if both wings are helping each other flap away with our taxes, and making us more dependent on them throughout this whole insane negligence. No sick leave during pandemic (besides that, it’s a human right), no pay raises during all the price gouging exploitation and major inflation. Who’s going to fill their pockets if we don’t depend on them anymore? It’s a corrupt and repulsive body of people running the nation, with only a handful of exceptions.
We need to demand change by mass protests like how you’re seeing in Iran, day after day, week after week month after month with rotating groups of protesters. This is why the first amendment was signed into law, for instance like this where people aren’t happy with current affairs and how they’re being handled. We need those pubs and their nazi cronies out! These long protests are long over due.
I wrote more about it in my profile with a common cause most people can get behind. Take a look and read.
ChopinsHeartMany share your history here; It’s like Joyce Vance just said in her Substack.
We have to CONTACT our representatives; in Congress and ask for private meetings, CALL; they keep track of calls.
‼️people, we have to act on this, each person. From their own cell phone.
This is serious stuff here.
arescertainly it's not good to generalize from the people you know to an entire population
good friends for the last fifteen years are orthodox and went full maga over the last few years, moved to a red state, rail about woke mind viruses, etc.
not just them, but a whole community of their friends and members of their synagogue get together to gripe about migrants and stolen elections, and how great ted cruz is
they think the u.s. and euro left is the enemy and point to the bds movement, support for palestinians, etc.
they're thrilled about tfg's jewish son in law, moving u.s. embassy to jerusalem, new far-right coalition in tel aviv
they say accusations of right-wing #fascism and #antisemitism are just left-wing propaganda to distract from the real threat of islamic terror
are my friends and their community rare outliers?
how do we know if "american jews" in general are terrified of u.s. right wing antisemitism?
or if, like my friends, a large number of jewish people support the u.s. right wing because the u.s. right wing supports israel and israel's ultra-right-wing government?
Sarah@ares Orthodox Jews make up around 10% of all American Jews while 70% if not more of all American Jews vote for the Democratic Party. Respectfully, you are doing what you criticize @Mimirocah1 for. You are making generalizations about entire group (saying that a large number of Jewish people are right wing when that is factually incorrect) from your own personal experience with a small part of the population.
really trying not to make generalizations from the small number of jewish people i've gotten to know well over many years
also some of this conversation feels dangerously close to vicious stereotypes that we need to be careful not to engage in
maybe the reason my experience is different from @Mimirocah1 is that i've mostly known people in the orthodox community
it's disorienting to talk with people whose grandparents were persecuted by fascists but view today's antifascists as their bigger enemy
again, just my very limited experience with a small number of people who i know and (still) love, not necessarily reflective of any larger group
Why are you friends with MAGAs? I don't understand.
Or are you just trying to disaparage Jews? If so, it's a strange way to insult people. It sounds like you need to be more discriminatory if those are your friends.
it's been tough
i've known this couple, and their children, and their friends and neighbors for fifteen years
it wasn't always like this
we talked a lot about fascist threats to jewish people in history, and in the current day
we also talked a lot about injustice and oppression of palestinians
we used to have a lot in common, but they've been radicalized by the magas, and i'm sure i've become more radical in the other direction
Just Ella@Mimirocah1 I understand that fear and anxiety. My parents lived through the post WWII and Jim Crow south, moved north to a modify northern Jim Crow. Lynching, murder, beating, etc all around them. Almost 75 yrs it has returned. Yes I have fear and anxiety… I understand
@Mimirocah1 It's a very unsettling time for sure. Most of us don't physically look different from other white people, so my current concern is for when we congregate at synagogues. The Anti-Jewish, Anti-Zionist, Anti-Israel narratives are all being smashed together (of course) into one big "THEY" who-have-invisible-powers-over-everything-and-everywhere. Easy for demagogues to make a target like that. Hard to push back against it when political leaders help promote it by shrugging it off.
Wojciech@Mimirocah1
My town has 30k citizens and it is enough to have old nazi camp with museum because of 270km distance to Berlin.
These objects were not demolished for some reason.They are terribly ugly and repetitive like our history.
Politicians will always take advantage of the ignorance of the society. What we can do is educate our children. Soon our grandparents who remember what happened to minorities will be gone and only those ugly old camps where people like us died will remain.
My town has 30k citizens and it is enough to have old nazi camp with museum because of 270km distance to Berlin.
These objects were not demolished for some reason.They are terribly ugly and repetitive like our history.
Politicians will always take advantage of the ignorance of the society. What we can do is educate our children. Soon our grandparents who remember what happened to minorities will be gone and only those ugly old camps where people like us died will remain.
Doug 🇨🇦🌈@Mimirocah1 Republicans will jump on any bandwagon including antisemitism because they have no moral center.
Lambda@Mimirocah1 There's a lot of genocidal rhetoric going around targeting so many rn. Jews, queer people... all coming by the same people, from the far right, and most liberal political leaders seem to not fully realize the danger all that represents. It's like we learned nothing from Germany shortly before WWII
Laurie@Mimirocah1 Israel's expansionism and treatment of Palestinian's is not helping. I don't know what it's like in USA, but in Europe fair minded people are rapidly taking against Israel and this has a knock on effect against all Jewish people.
@Lauretz @Mimirocah1
Very few Americans even keep up to date on what happens in Israel, unless a headline buys into their theology.
What very few know is that many Palestinians are Christian, although most who could dos so moved away. Israeli forces make no distinction between Christian and Muslim Palestinians.
Very few Americans even keep up to date on what happens in Israel, unless a headline buys into their theology.
What very few know is that many Palestinians are Christian, although most who could dos so moved away. Israeli forces make no distinction between Christian and Muslim Palestinians.
Faure Felix@Mimirocah1 Sale époque !
WTF@Mimirocah1 It concerns me about Israel’s move to the hard right and it making things more difficult here for American Jews. My grandchild is Jewish with a Jewish last name. I never in my life thought I’d be saying this In this country but I’m concerned even frightened.