Alasdair AllanI've just found out we make a micro-HDMI to VGA cable. Apparently, we did a run for a customer and we've still got some. We should sell this? Would folks want this for their @[email protected]? #RaspberryPi #RaspberryPi4 #HDMI #VGA
Rui Carmo@aallan @[email protected] folk with older digital signage systems might appreciate it.
Trevor Flowers@aallan @Raspberry_Pi What magic is this?! Is there a converter chip in the cable or does HDMI include analog signals if necessary?
@trevorflowers @[email protected] There sort of has to be a chip in the cable โ presumably the VGA end, it's a pretty beefy connector.
Jeroen Wiert Pluimers@aallan @[email protected] what price point are you roughly thinking about?
I'd likely be interested when Raspberry Pi 4 gets better availability.
@wiert @[email protected] I only just discovered we made the thing. Let me go down the other end of the office and talk to the Commercial team.
@aallan @[email protected] did they get back to you?
@wiert @[email protected] They got back to me eventually, you can now pick one up from The Pi Hut, https://thepihut.com/products/official-raspberry-pi-micro-hdmi-to-vga-cable?mc_cid=836758cb25&mc_eid=fbb9223795.
Matthew C. ๐๐ป@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I feel like people who want to do a #RetroGaming #RaspberryPi build with an older #CRTMonitor could get a lot of use out of these. You'd probably sell a lot.
Peter Mount@aallan @Raspberry_Pi could be handy for some.
When I did the grafana dashboard last week I used a standard hdmi-vga cable as I was using a 2B and a spare VGA monitor but if someone used a PI4 then this would mean cutting out an extra adapter
@peter @[email protected] I also found an HDMI to VGA cable. But it was the micro-HDMI to VGA that blew my mind!
@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I've not seen those before either.
I've just done an amazon search & there's full-HDMI to VGA male-male but all micro-HDMI ones have a female connector
@peter @[email protected] Yeah, I also found an HDMI to VGA cable โ which I also didn't know we made โ but it was the micro-HDMI to VGA that sort of blew my mind.
Olm-e
alexraffa 
@aallan I'd buy one, to upcycle vga monitors
Ricardo B๏ฟฝnffy@aallan @[email protected] could be useful, but my Pi's never liked my Dell HDMI to VGA adapter. What chip is doing the conversion magic?
@rbanffy @[email protected] I'm trying to find the schematics now, failing that I'll take a craft knife and a spudger and cut one apart tomorrow and find out!
@aallan @[email protected] I'm fine if it works on 32-bit Raspbian.
David Fi&er@djfiander @[email protected] Can't argue with that!
Alessio 
@aallan @Raspberry_Pi would be interesting, as I have a monitor with both HDMI and VGA and I always switch cables between my PC and Raspberry
concretedog@aallan @[email protected] huh .. I have a few pi that use old vga monitors for workshops (rather than landfilling the monitors) I'd probably use em!
Steinar BangMy router/firewall (that's actually an rPi) is connected to an old LCD display that I had laying around, with something like this that I found back in 2016 https://steinar.bang.priv.no/2016/05/06/using-a-raspberry-pi-2-model-b-as-a-routerfirewall-for-the-home-lan/
So this will be useful for everyone in the same situation as me.
(Personally I'm already covered, though...)
jess_ingrass
Canoehead๐ถ@aallan @[email protected] if the price is right, I think it would pair well with my Pi 400 running PiMiga or DOSbian.
John Arnold 
@aallan @Raspberry_Pi For schools that would be CRAZY useful. Every school I've run Code Clubs in has old VGA only monitors and connecting Raspberry Pis to them is a PITA.
Alan Clifford ๐๏ธโโ๏ธ๐ฆ ๐ท@aallan @Raspberry_Pi
@benc
There's a cable the diameter of a Florida python attached to the back of my telly with a HDMI to smaller HDMI converter on it. So there probably is a market for a thinner cable.
@benc
There's a cable the diameter of a Florida python attached to the back of my telly with a HDMI to smaller HDMI converter on it. So there probably is a market for a thinner cable.
Benj, those two screens we got with Dell computers a long time ago - are they vga. Maybe I could use them?
Skrrp 
@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I had to use a micro-HDMI -> HDMI converter block, then a HDMI -> VGA cable. I'm personally unlikely to buy this cable now, but would have if it was available back then.
Adam Austin@aallan
I'd be interested for sure! I have an old VGA monitor and the only way to keep it out of the landfill is to use cables like that.
I'd be interested for sure! I have an old VGA monitor and the only way to keep it out of the landfill is to use cables like that.
MuzDefinitely. Would be very useful. Esp for families who want to use a pi to teach their kids - usually what happens is the pi will end up connected to a "spare" monitor gathering dust in the cupboard, so only having to use a single cable without any adaptors which you know will be compatible with both from the outset would be a godsend in those situations.
Russell Davis@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I've been using an IchigoDyhook & DPC and/or Composite to XXX cables for all my Pi display needs as the Fire TV looks like Sh*** with the Pi without the desktop
smells of bikes@aallan @[email protected] this rocks. I have way more vga monitors than digital interface ones.
Justin Dearing@aallan @Raspberry_Pi if I had an old CRT 21" I'd love to slap a PI to it for a workstation for my daughters. I just don't think a lot of people who are into this kind of thing do except maybe retro gamers
Thilo, EE ๐ค๐ผโ๏ธ ๐ช๐บ๐๏ธ๐บ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธ@aallan @Raspberry_Pi You mean we could plug our #RC2014 terminals into a proper VGA CRT monitor now? ๐ฏ
That'd be awesome!
Next: IBM Model M with Micro USB. ๐
cc @rc2014
Andrew Hoyer@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I would say yes, for people who want to build a retro machine and display it to an old 4:3 monitor.
Jonathan โtheJPsterโ Pallant@aallan @Raspberry_Pi could you make me a VGA to HDMI cable for my RP2040 powered micro ATX mainboard?
@thejpster @[email protected] Funny you should say that, we do have that one too. It's just the micro-HDMI is so much more cursed! ๐
@aallan @Raspberry_Pi no, the other way! I want to plug a Pico that is bit-bashing VGA output into an HDMI TV :)
voipmeister@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I could see myself buying those for cockpit building.
Brandon@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I found an old Kaiser ProView that takes dual VGA inputs. At the time I wondered if it could run off a raspberry pi but I dismissed it due to the VGA req. This cable would be perfect!
topshed@aallan @[email protected] I would find them useful - this is the what I end up using with some old VGA-only monitors we use at CoderDojo
John (W5JAK) Kane@aallan @Raspberry_Pi yes, getting quality cables with the correct ends is almost impossible
Nacorid@aallan @Raspberry_Pi how does that even work? I thought VGA is analog?
@[email protected] @[email protected] It is, there is a conversion board (and chip) inside the cable (at the VGA connector end).
@aallan @Raspberry_Pi very nice :)
Philip Deevy@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I have an ancient VGA monitor that's in perfect working order buy gathering dust for lack of a machine to use.it with. I would definitely buy one for Raspberry Pi-related use.
David Smith@aallan @Raspberry_Pi I remember a company selling something similar during the PS3 days (full size HDMI obviously) except it cost ยฃ70!