How much is the UK economy being hindered by people being unable to rely on any public transport?

Bristol has just had a huge number of bus routes cancelled at short notice. People had made decisions on where to live based on these bus routes facilitating commuting.

So many people having to wait hours for expensive non-existent trains and buses.
#UK #economy #publicTransport #Bristol

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The new transport secretary Mark Harper was due in Manchester this morning to deliver a speech at the Great Northern Conference but has opted to prerecord it instead. Presume he didn’t fancy the £369 peak avanti fare and/or the lottery that is uk train travel right now.
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“The new transport secretary @Mark_J_Harper was due in Manchester this morning to deliver a speech at the Great Northern Conference but has opted to prerecord it instead. Presume he didn’t fancy the £369 peak avanti fare and/or the lottery that is uk train travel right now.”

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#Avanti - owned by First Group.
#TPE - First Group
#GWR (who cancelled my train today) - First Group.

#Bristol #bus routes cancelled by First Group.

I am detecting a pattern here.

@DToher Often faster to walk to/from center of Bristol if you live within a 3 or 4 mile radius. This is obviously shocking.
@DToher I line in the North West. On Saturday Avanti cancelled all trains from Manchester to London, with no warning. Avanti have been cancelling train since they took over from Virgin.😠
@DToher I saw an interesting thread on Twtr today https://twitter.com/thomasforth/status/1595000478311612417?s=20&t=DWfRwlME9IhOj6tubxnv_Q about buses in England. I've always loved public transport but in some places it's so precarious 😢
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“I've been looking at low productivity in the UK. Trying to find examples with data of where it actually happens. Public transport is an ace example. Compared to our more productive neighbouring countries we use far more drivers to transport fewer people. That's low productivity.”

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@Letxuga007 Tom has a history of writing really interesting pieces on buses.

His bus tracker project highlighted some of the issues. Years ago, I helped him unpick how so many Dublin buses could arrive at their final destination early (the only advertised departure time was leaving the terminus stop, so the buses didn't need to wait around if running ahead of schedule).
You had to work out based on time of day, weather, traffic etc how long it would take a bus to reach your stop.

@DToher that's really interesting! Sounds like the flow analysis analysts in the NHS do for hospitals but without the weather, traffic variables. Running buses is a deceptively complex system.

@Letxuga007 I cheated a bit in the early 2000s. I would phone the bus depot and ask them where the bus was - I was told to do this after I wrote a very strongly worded letter of complaint that had a Dublin Bus rep come to my home to discuss the issues.

From the 90s (or possibly earlier) Dublin Bus had a really advanced tracking system where the location of the individual buses could be determined from the depot, but they would often radio the driver to confirm.

@DToher @Letxuga007 I'm astounded! Yandex Maps (in Russia, I don't know about anywhere else) track all bus routes and times. Open the app and see precisely where my bus is at the current time.
@DToher the Nottinghamshire bus stops all have those live feed notices now - absolutely amazing! I've been quick to forget how frustrating waiting and having no idea if the bus is even running was!
@DToher Of course some idiot is going to frame this as an 'active transport' policy... I'm all for encouraging cycle use (or even walking to work), but as you say not when folk have made difficult decisions to live far from work based on availability of public transport... yet one more aspect of how this country is sinking beneath the waves
@DToher Take transport back under public control. Privatisation is not working. Stop the race to the bottom and rebuild out transport system.

@DToher mid Bedfordshire have lost large number of routes. People in one town now have 1 bus an hour and it doesn't run in evening or Sunday. It also sometimes goes through early and sometimes late so you can be standing at bus stop for half hour waiting.
So people need a car. Only poor/disabled/elderly use bus so bus companies say nobody uses it. It's also horrendously expensive.

Public transport should be cheap, reliable, frequent and lots of routes then people wouldn't need cars so much.

@DToher I live in a rural area, with one bus a week. The impact on people trying to find work around this is huge. Even in the local towns the bus/train links are pitiful, a 20 min drive takes 90 mins. Only a few a day and none would get to a 9-5 job. Impossible with no car.
@DToher where I live they build a large new housing estate and design it so a bus can’t turn around so - no bus services in the estate at all
@DToher Yes, frequent bus cancellations here in Weston-Super-Mare leaving us, both 70+, stranded far from home and making our bus passes not worth using.
@DToher it's been going on for years. At least most in cities could cycle. It's normally no longer possible to commute by bus to #kingsLynn from villages outside unless you work a town centre 9-5 and never want to stay late. Work in the factory units or at the hospital? No option for you. Work shifts? No option. Norfolk council doesn't value reducing congestion and pollution, it seems, so no reform in sight. Cycling unlit unprotected 50/60mph roads only for the brave.
@DToher they've cut the buses services here so there are two gaps of an hour and a half with no buses.