Jeremy BowersMight need to figure out a plan for getting The Post’s journalists on Mastodon. What’s the right angle — hosting our own server?
Steven Rich@jeremybowers don't make me move again
Forest Gregg@jeremybowers i think that could be a good way to “verify”
@fgregg @jeremybowers feels like the correct take
Chris Zubak-Skees@databae @fgregg @jeremybowers There's some sort of decentralized verification system, whose mechanism I don't yet understand. One provider: https://www.presscheck.org/howitworks
@databae @fgregg @jeremybowers So, could add verification by adding a Mastodon social link to the author service and rendering tier. Two PRs, maybe 20 LOC.
@zubakskees @databae @jeremybowers at least on the mastadon.social client those rel=me verification indicators are only the user's profile. but [email protected] would be visible on every post.
@fgregg @databae @jeremybowers Yeah that's a good point. Here's @MattHodges with another idea: https://mastodon.social/@MattHodges/109394246861547186
Steve has ☕️ for brains@jeremybowers that's my take. then you can link journalists' profiles to something on The Post for verification, showing they are attested as legit members of the staff...
@jeremybowers ie if @databae linked to https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/steven-rich/ and it had the rel=me code embedded, it would show Steven as verified Washington Post staff...
Damon Kiesow@jeremybowers Yes. Absolutely. Keep in mind posts don’t migrate if someone leaves/changes instances.
@jeremybowers And the sidekiq jobs are like exponential to followers/engagement.
Zate 🦘🇦🇺@jeremybowers yes, and under a domain that the post owns, that way you can be verified simpler.
Joseph Kohlmann@jeremybowers Possibly related — here are @danhon’s thoughts on this: https://newsletter.danhon.com/archive/s13e17-a-proposal-for-news-organization-mastodon/
Geoff Hing@jeremybowers To me, the rel=me link on the employee profile pages makes more sense than an organizational instance.
Ben Lamb@jeremybowers I think that really solves the "verified" issue and it means that you might be able to more easily onboard people since you have behind-the-scenes control
Rep. Eric Gallager (no "h"!)@jeremybowers yeah I've heard people saying that hosting your own server will be the closest thing to verification available here
Samantha Yeargin@jeremybowers That would be my vote. Would also be a form of verification.
Jon Henshaw@jeremybowers yes, a server that the Post manages and controls, and only allows its employees to use.
Stephen Yeargin@jeremybowers Added bonus is that it can talk to LDAP for authentication / account provisioning. One less password for them to forget. 😜
Leo Ji 
Julian Burgess@jeremybowers yes I think it would be great if we could normalize companies hosting their own social, it just seems to make much more sense
Parker Benchley@jeremybowers I think hosting your own server is the smartest way forward. Acts as a verification of sorts - I can see media and publications hosting their own servers - plus it gives you more control over your accounts and data.
Heck, I’m thinking about running my own one-person federated server just to ensure my data and account are never held hostage by another social media company.
Ben Ng@jeremybowers definitely gotta host your own
jimray@jeremybowers I’d love to see this. Everyone talks about verification, which is cool, but honestly I think news orgs have a chance to help figure out what this fediwhatnot looks like from a product angle. If I’m a Post reader and I can follow the writers I like within the Post’s app, without having to figure out all the fiddly bits, that’s compelling(?). Of course, a bit more involved than setting up a server but, you know. Baby steps.
Ben Welsh@jeremybowers what about investing in bolstering mastodon.social and the core maintainers?
Dan Hon@jeremybowers Although! See the employer/staffer power dynamic in enforcing network portability, which you'd need to deal with in policy https://newsletter.danhon.com/archive/s13e17-a-proposal-for-news-organization-mastodon/
J Emory Parker 🏳️🌈@danhon @jeremybowers that does seem like the thorniest problem. For example, having gone through a layoff where my work email was instantly deleted that hammered home to me to be very cautious about using employer owned infrastructure for anything I care about.
Ted Han ★ 韓聖安Orgs have 4 options basically:
1. host a server that other people can sign up for. You now have a lot of operational problems.
2. host a server for your staff. You now have some operational problems.
3. set up an official account on somebody else's server. You now have become someone else's operational problem
4. Don't engage on Mastodon. You now have FOMO.
Tyler Fisher@jeremybowers Pretty sure it's our own server. But it's gonna need to be a beefy one or ten. https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/
Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)
Every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. What does this say about the design of Mastodon and ActivityPub and the future of the fediverse?
Htaggert@jeremybowers hosting a Post server gives your ppl credibility and the ability to defederate with other servers if they decide they want to harass. I think it’s a good way to go. I bet your IT ppl can do it in a snap.
@Htaggert I am our IT people!
@jeremybowers ohhhh well, in that case…
Solarbird 
@jeremybowers I think self-hosting a server would be a really good idea.
Eric William Lin@jeremybowers I'm still trying to find an easy way just to recapture my data viz/news graphics network on here. It's so tedious to rebuild the same follow/following graph even in just one domain...
Zhi Zhu 🕸️Yes, please!