Thibaultmol 🌈Nov 14, 2022
Thermostat set to 18C, but it was getting too cold (15C) in the house, so we finally had to actually turn on the #gas condensing #boiler unfortunately
(That small daily bump there was just for warm water)
Show threadalexis 🀄️Nov 14, 2022
@thibaultmol oh cool, you've got stats for this! is this automated? what are you using to record and display the data? would love to hear about any kinda home #automation stuff you got set up ^^
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@alexis I'm fortunate enough to live in Belgium and have a digital #SmartMeter which supports the #DSMR spec (very compatible with stuff). So basically, our electricity meter is wirelessly linked to our gas meter. By hooking up a little dongle to the P1 data port of the meter, you get very detailed data from both gas/elec. Which even includes voltage and amperage of each individual phase (our pharmacy has three phrase elec coming in). All in #HomeAssistant
Nov 14, 2022 at 4:27pmWeb
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Nov 14, 2022
@alexis When It comes to actual automations. I haven't had that much time. There's a decent amount of things I want to do. But time is a limiting factor....
One thing I've done is reduce our TV/sound system setup standby 40W to 0 till noon, when it automatically turns on when my parents want to watch stuff. And it auto turns off when it detects that it's not been used for 15 minutes after a certain time in the evening. #HomeAssistant
Show threadalexis 🀄️Nov 14, 2022
@thibaultmol I feel you on the lack of time.. there's so many cool hobbies and things I want to set up and I really have to prioritize the ones that I'm into the most. Even tonight I'm messing around with #homelab stuff, wednesday evening some new (actually old) hardware is arriving for me to add to the setup 🙂
Show threadalexis 🀄️Nov 14, 2022
@thibaultmol wow, that's pretty detailed, and it sounds so simple to set up if you've got the infrastructure for it like you do. one day i'd love to have some kind of statistics i can pull out of my living space, sadly here it feels like you basically have to own your own house to be able to have permission/be able to get such things set up ^^
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Nov 14, 2022

@alexis If you have a smart meter, you can attach dongles to it without needing permission. But if you don't have one, You'll have to resort to either something like a #Shelly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgJDla8sWiw They're very open when it comes to smarthome integrations like #HomeAssistant .
OR you could go with something like this https://iotawatt.com/ which can monitor many circuits.

I, personally, haven't done that kind of measuring yet. It's the smart meter and then just Shelly smart plugs

Shelly EM Smart Energy Monitor | Best Electricity Meter ?? 🤔

YouTube
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Nov 14, 2022
@alexis but those smart plugs can be used in a special way: I've used them to track certain devices's standby and active power usage. To get an idea what they use. You could in theory (haven't gotten around to it, but plan to) something like this: https://github.com/bramstroker/homeassistant-powercalc
GitHub - bramstroker/homeassistant-powercalc: Custom component to calculate estimated power consumption of lights and other appliances

Custom component to calculate estimated power consumption of lights and other appliances - bramstroker/homeassistant-powercalc

GitHub
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Nov 14, 2022

@alexis Which basically allows you to pretend power usage.
So for ex: you have a TV that can be detected if it's off/standby/on based on what the status is of it's chromecast signal. Then you could measure what the power values would be using a smart plug. And then you input that into powercalc and have it 'pretend' to output power values depending on the device's status.

So it would show the correct power usage in #HomeAssistant's Energy dashboard

Show threadalexis 🀄️Nov 14, 2022
@thibaultmol hmm, not so sure how I feel about estimates that are that rough. I guess for the use case, estimated data is better than no data, but estimating a light's electricty use by measuring its hue and brightness... I think I'll have to see if I can find some kind of smaller in-home device that plugs into the wall, and lets you plug your device into it as a middleman. Tracking electric at the meter would be best but at my place I don't even have physical access - locked door from mgmt 😭