I'm looking to talk to someone, ideally from an agency or small cooperative, who has switched to Nextcloud.

I'm interested in how people have things like Time Tracking and Deck configured for project/client work.

(please boost!)

Pretty telling that despite ~50 boosts of the above post, it seems there's not many people *using* Nextcloud? 🤔

If @weareopencoop do end up using it, perhaps we should write a guide that starts where this one from @homegrown ends?

https://growyourown.services/beginners-guide-to-nextcloud

A Beginner’s Guide to Nextcloud – Grow Your Own Services

@dajbelshaw @weareopencoop @homegrown Well the guide is nice and all, but then you get to step 10 and think "holy crap, I'm not going to do this."

@Downes @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

Thanks for feedback!

You mean the warning about legal issues? Sorry, I wasn't intending to scare people off!

I wasn't sure whether to put that in or not, but I thought it's better to be aware of it in advance rather than having any nasty surprises.

I'm guessing most people will never have problems though, so I don't know if it's overdoing the warning... 🤔

@homegrown I wouldn't say it's a necessary thing to include - it's true of every other service as well. @Downes @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

@lightweight @Downes @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

I guess, cos my site is aimed at beginners, I'm concerned they might not realise that hosting can carry legal responsibilities in some countries.

It's a tough one... I'll see if I can phrase it in a more friendly way...

@lightweight @Downes @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

Right, I've rephrased it a bit so the basic info is there but hopefully less scary.

@homegrown @lightweight @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

I wouldn't have mentioned it at all. The minute you say 'you need a legal expert' people will tune out. And I wouldn't blame them - I don't want to use anything I need a legal expert to understand.

And honestly, I don't think the warning is necessary - or, more accurately, it's no more necessary that it would be for doing anything else online, or in general. Hosting your own site isn't some special big legal deal. IMO.

@Downes @lightweight @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

The thing is... you do sort of need to be aware that hosting your own service does potentially carry legal responsibilities?

I am not a lawyer, but it feels unwise to start an online service and then let strangers upload whatever they want there?

Many countries have specific laws banning certain kinds of content.

@homegrown @lightweight @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

*everything* carries legal consequences.

And yes, it's a bad idea to let strangers post content to your site. But not just because of legal reasons. That would be the least of your concerns.

How's this for a better approach: instead of warning about vague and unspecified legal issues, say something about it being good practice limiting access to your site to verified and registered users, ie., to people you trust. Don't mention lawyers.

@Downes @lightweight @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

I will give this another go 😁

@Downes @lightweight @dajbelshaw @weareopencoop

Okay, I've redone it again.

I do think it's important to say "I am not a lawyer" when touching on legal issues, especially if it's in a beginner's guide.

However, I hope this is a bit less scary though! I've used your phrase about limiting it to people you trust 👍