I'm not legally allowed to self host things without violating my ISP's AUP

https://www.xfinity.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/HighSpeedInternetAUP

The rest of it generally sucks too.
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High Speed Internet AUP

"Comcast manages its network with one goal: to deliver the best possible broadband Internet experience to all of its customers"

Yeah fuck off
Honestly even Comcast's business class internet has some bullshit

I can't apply network filtering policies in my lan?

Comcast can literally interfere with my services' availability at will?

I can't change from Comcast's default DNS?

IRC and other chat bots cannot be hosted

What does this last thing even mean? Am I not allowed to let people know that my web services are, in fact, a teapot?

I probably misunderstood some of those but they're so oversimplified that I'm asking more questions than I'm getting answers
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@wizard What the shit is that, do you have a link?
Acceptable Use Policy

@seven weep* lol whoop

@wizard Jesus:

"undertake or accomplish any unlawful purpose. This includes, but is not limited to, posting, storing, transmitting or disseminating information, data or material which is libelous, obscene, unlawful, threatening or defamatory, or which infringes the intellectual property rights of any person or entity, or which in any way constitutes or encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, or otherwise violate any local, state, federal, or non-U.S. law, order, or regulation;"

@seven I mean, I'm posting the less-expected bullshit. It's probably wrong that I expected things like this to be in there but ey

There's obviously a lot wrong with internet politics and policy in general and I think that lots of people are already aware of most of what's going on.

@wizard And stuff like this: "post, store, send, transmit, or disseminate any information or material which a reasonable person could deem to be unlawful;"

What reasonable person? Like who are we talking about, and do I get to agree they are reasonable. They have lost their mind if they think any of this is actually enforceable if anyone with the ability to legally fight back does...

@seven Honestly why is comcast trying to police the data that I "store"

Like if I have it, it's not their problem. They're just a telecommunications company, not a global authority for what lives on my NAS

That's the government's job if anything
@wizard we've been running this instance on a Comcast connection for almost a year and their service has been shit but they haven't shut us down

presumably our server does not look like a personal one because it's getting inbounds from all over the place
@wizard we honestly didn't even read the terms and conditions because we don't give a shit, we're not doing anything illegal
@wizard (and if we are, you can't prove it)
@wizard they give us a whopping 6 mbit/sec of upload so it's really not like we're going to be a thorn in their side even if we saturate that continuously
@diodelass Yeah, that's another thing. I doubt comcast cares much about trying to lock down non-business class customers since their speeds are generally slow enough and they probably would buy the business version if they were doing big business things anyway.
@wizard yeah and like
they have all the flags they need if they actually cared to check
"hmmmmm, this girl forwarded every port to one device that's always online, WONDER WHAT THAT COULD BE"

@diodelass
11MiB up and down gang right here  
(i have no idea what the canonical speed of that connection is supposed to be but there is openvpn overhead and stuff)

thank not-comcast but also fuck them because they're not that much better
@wizard

@diodelass Honestly I doubt that any part of this AUP is actually enforced except for dmca-related policies and easily automatable ones.

@wizard
my laptop runs nginx

fuck the police

@haskal I guess this is a compliant configuration, as long as I'm not running dedicated hardware I could still self-host for non commercial purposes

Unfortunately that defeats the whole purpose
Imagine a bunch of 8 year old kids setting up a spare laptop to run a minecraft server to play together, then Comcast shutting their internet down because they violated their policy against running dedicated service hosting hardware. Any potential for them to learn about networking technology gets cut off right at the political level.
@wizard I've hosted stuff from home for years with comcast
@brad I don't think they'll ever give me a problem, but it's still technically against the rules
@wizard that is unfortunate
@brad It pisses me off when there are so many dumb rules in the book that the higher-ups can pick anything out to bully you with whenever they feel, I guess.
@wizard authority is a spook
Honestly I kind of hate that I posted this as a "think of the kids" post but it's more approachable, relatable, and simpler to understand than other examples.

Like if I wanted to setup a self-hosted way of sharing photos between me and my family, it's still against their terms. Not as many people want to do that though and it's much more niche than a minecraft server.
@wizard My friend and I ran a Terraria server in middle school, and when we started to get a lot of players, our ISP started switching our IP address when we got a lot of traffic.
@wizard How is this still a thing?