@Chiquidrakula @COSAntiFascists @iris @Em0nM4stodon @cryptoparty @cryptoparty @thunderbird

#FACT: It's not real #E2EE unless you have100% #SelfCustody of all the keys!

• By contrast, @monocles are upfront and honest that if you use their #WebMailer's built-in Encryption / Decryption, your Keys *will be stored on the Servers [Something that @protonprivacy / #ProtonMail does too but tries to leave out as a little detail]...

Thus the correct way as #monoclesMail says is to use your own client and keep your keys to yourself.

• Cuz unlike #Proton, #monocles actually offer standard protocols to use with regular eMail clients

Now OFC, monocles charge €2 p.m. for their starter account but they also accept #SEPA #WireTransfer, #Monero, #CashByMail, #Stripe and #PayPal for #payments, so it's pretty flexible and affordable given they don't put #ads in your #inbox or invade user privacy!

@landley @stman @OS1337 OFC this shift has been gradual and slow.

#Netbooks introduced people to the concept of #WebApps and accepting lower performance for lower price and more battery runtime.

#Smartphones became cheaper to the point one can get a < €100 one shipped next day via Aperzon and likely even a < € 50 one (+shipping) from eNay or ShitExpress without even negotiating at all.

#Chromebooks then extended #Android to something more "productive" and #Apple's #iPad followed suit - don't get me started on #Microsoft's failed and overpriced #Surface crap tho!

#FirefoxOS tried to go full in on the concept of "All you need is a Browser really" but as we all know they hamfisted themselves by not actually selling devices to people that want them - I know @fuchsiii and I wanted one but the only way to get one was to get some obscure Spanish Prepaid Bundle (which noone would proxy-buy because ID registration bs), get the #Netlock / #SimLock removed and then shipped to Germany...

And for most "#Users", which lets be honest are the "#TechIlliterate #Normies", all they need is something that can open up NSAbook, Aperzon, YouNuke and allow them to access the #WebMailer of their provider...

The only reasons I still deploy #UbuntuLTS for these is because they tend to randomly want to print stuff, copy files, edit an eMail and put some fancy fonted text into a PDF.

And because #GDPR & #BDSG are inherently incompatible with #CloudAct but I still have to maintain stuff...

@EeveeEuphoria #Gmail is utter garbage and the fact that it can't even sort emails "unread first" in 2023 makes it a useless #Webmailer...

Shit like it is why I use #Thunderbird...