🕵️‍♂️🚔 Ofcom's latest saga continues with their attempt to enforce their imaginary #superpowers across the pond. Preston Byrne gleefully spills the tea, exposing Ofcom's literary genius in crafting letters that redefine legal illiteracy. 📜🙄
https://prestonbyrne.com/2025/12/04/the-ofcom-files-part-4-ofcom-rides-again/ #Ofcom #PrestonByrne #LegalLiteracy #HackerNews #ExposingTheTruth #HackerNews #ngated
The Ofcom Files, Part 4: Ofcom Rides Again

This is a continuation of the Ofcom Files, a series of First Amendment-protected public disclosures designed to inform the American and British public about correspondence that the UK’s censo…

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The difference between British regulation vs: American regulation: Rat Shit in Food vs: CSAM

US regulation is binary: FDA permits 9ppm of rat droppings in flour, realising it’s inevitable. You are within limits, yes or no? UK regulation is analogue: banning any & all poop in expe…

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The difference between British regulation vs: American regulation: Rat Shit in Food vs: CSAM
https://alecmuffett.com/article/123236
#AgeVerification #IanRussell #LiberaChat #OnlineSafety #OnlineSafetyAct #PrestonByrne #censorship #surveillance #vpn
The difference between British regulation vs: American regulation: Rat Shit in Food vs: CSAM

US regulation is binary: FDA permits 9ppm of rat droppings in flour, realising it’s inevitable. You are within limits, yes or no? UK regulation is analogue: banning any & all poop in expe…

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The difference between British regulation vs: American regulation: Rat Shit in Food vs: CSAM

US regulation is binary: FDA permits 9ppm of rat droppings in flour, realising it’s inevitable. You are within limits, yes or no? UK regulation is analogue: banning any & all poop in expectation that this will drive ever-cleaner processes of food handling, so any (rare) cases can be dealt with by individual investigation.

Guess which…

Guess which doesn’t work for the internet, doesn’t scale, doesn’t travel, is gamed by those who face it, & inflames activists? Not to mention: in the world of food the rats are not actively attempting to circumvent restrictions on where they can poop.

https://twitter.com/LundukeJournal/status/1988709946528334009

https://twitter.com/owenboswarva/status/1989979267103707609

Also:

Father of teen whose death was linked to social media has ‘lost faith’ in Ofcom
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/15/molly-russell-family-social-media-ofcom

Update: Citations

  • US FDA, Food Defect Levels Handbook: “Wheat: Rodent filth (MPM-V15) Average of 9 mg or more rodent excreta pellets and/or pellet fragments per kilogram”
  • UK: The Food Safety (General Food Hygiene) Regulations 1995: Ch 1: “The layout, design, construction and size of food premises shall … permit good food hygiene practices, including protection against cross contamination between and during operations, by foodstuffs, equipment, materials, water, air supply or personnel and external sources of contamination such as pests”
  • (ibid) Ch 3: “…permit good food hygiene practices, including protection against cross contamination between and during operations, by foodstuffs, equipment, materials, water, air supply or personnel and external sources of contamination such as pests … foodstuffs must be so placed as to avoid, so far as is reasonably practicable, the risk of contamination.”
  • (ibid) Ch 4: “2.—(1) Receptacles in vehicles and/or containers must not be used for transporting anything other than foodstuffs where this may result in contamination of foodstuffs (2) Bulk foodstuffs in liquid, granular or powder form must be transported in receptacles and/or containers/tankers reserved for the transport of foodstuffs if otherwise there is a risk of contamination. Such containers must be marked in a clearly visible and indelible fashion, in one or more Community languages, to sow that they are used for the transport of foodstuffs, or must be marked “for foodstuffs only”. (3) Where conveyances and/or containers are used for transporting anything in addition to foodstuffs or for transporting different foodstuffs at the same time, there must be effective separation of products where necessary, to protect against the risk of contamination.”
  • etc.

#ageVerification #censorship #ianRussell #liberaChat #onlineSafety #onlineSafetyAct #prestonByrne #surveillance #vpn

“Suffice it to say that everyone in possession of a copy of the LAION-5B images has hundreds if not thousands of instances of CSAM” | …so that’s 0.0001% of the content, then

So David Thiel at Stanford has posted a much-reported paper/story which tells us that the dataset which drives Stable Diffusion and a bunch of other AI systems, has scraped: hundreds if not thousan…

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IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act | Hacker News

Hackernews comment amongst themselves regarding Ofcom’s chasing foreign websites rather than pursuing domestic censorship:

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IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act | Hacker News
https://alecmuffett.com/article/119703
#AgeVerification #OnlineSafety #OnlineSafetyAct #PrestonByrne #censorship #ofcom #surveillance #vpns
IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act | Hacker News

Hackernews comment amongst themselves regarding Ofcom’s chasing foreign websites rather than pursuing domestic censorship:

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IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act | Hacker News

Hackernews comment amongst themselves regarding Ofcom’s chasing foreign websites rather than pursuing domestic censorship:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45860654

#ageVerification #censorship #ofcom #onlineSafety #onlineSafetyAct #PrestonByrne #surveillance #vpns

IP blocking the UK is not enough to comply with the Online Safety Act | Hacker News

The Ofcom Tea Party: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence, British regulator claims “sovereign immunity” to defend itself – and sovereign powers to regulate foreign companies
https://alecmuffett.com/article/117792
#4chan #OfcomFiles #OnlineSafety #OnlineSafetyAct #PrestonByrne #censorship #ofcom #surveillance
The Ofcom Tea Party: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence, British regulator claims “sovereign immunity” to defend itself – and sovereign powers to regulate foreign companies

Ofcom — driven by the letter of British law that they are bound to follow, but still Ofcom — are quietly making Britain look (a) very silly and (b) as if we haven’t yet shucked-off the Americ…

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The Ofcom Tea Party: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence, British regulator claims “sovereign immunity” to defend itself – and sovereign powers to regulate foreign companies

Ofcom — driven by the letter of British law that they are bound to follow, but still Ofcom — are quietly making Britain look (a) very silly and (b) as if we haven’t yet shucked-off the American Revolution, let alone colonialism.

What’s Happened Now?

Preston Byrne, lawyer for 4Chan, has published the (apparently full) correspondence between himself and Ofcom from the past few months, the smoking gun of which is the Ofcom Confirmation Decision, where Ofcom notes: (to summarise)

The Act explicitly grants Ofcom the legal authority to regulate online safety for individuals in the United Kingdom, and this expressly includes conducting investigations into, and imposing penalties for, non-compliance by providers of online services with their duties under the Act. […] The Act expressly anticipates that it will have extra-territorial effect, stating at section 204(1) of the Act […] This does not mean that the Act extends to all use of in-scope services globally. […] “The duties extend only to the design, operation and use of the service in the UK and, for duties expressed to apply in relation to ‘users’, as it affects the UK users of the service

My lived experience of Ofcom people makes me believe that this is a reflection of what they actually think they can and should be doing — I would love to be generous and suggest that this boilerplate reflects them politely throwing parliament under a bus for passing such a prima-facie dreadfully drafted and over-reaching law as the Online Safety Act… but I’m not convinced that Ofcom don’t actually believe some form of “we can do this! we are the little regulator who can bring law to the internet!” — hoping that smooth patter and soft power will provide them with outsize leverage.

Oh, and… having declared British jurisdictional powers to enforce against an American company in America thereby flouting American law, they then demand that American law protects them from counter-lawsuits, not to mention also claiming that 4Chan does not have jurisdiction over Ofcom:

What happens next?

Alas, global politics are a very big pond, and Ofcom (and Britain in general) is a much smaller fish than it likes to imagine.

As I have written previously, this will not end well: I cannot imagine the US judiciary nor administration supporting so flagrant a flouting of US sovereignty, although Britain will be spinning hard to minimise the noise in the media.

However: when eventually / having been proven not to be able to enforce against 4Chan and the Global Internet, the minds behind the Online Safety Act will start to press for a Great Firewall of Britain to protect our children from these profane and insufficiently regulated websites — which is curious if you think about it for a moment.

It’s not as if 4Chan is stealing across our borders in the dead of night to infect delicate British childrens’ minds with shitposting, porn and badly-drawn cartoons of frogs. From my perspective more damage has been wrought to British culture by the Disneyification of Winnie-the-Pooh (big fan of EH Shephard here) than by 4Chan.

And of course once/if the Great British Firewall (“White Cliffs of Cyber?”) is built, then we’ll be rediscovering that:

  • The kids already know how to use VPNs to circumvent firewalls
  • The Streisand Effect dictates that more kids will have gone to look at 4Chan because the Government is trying to stop them
  • The impotent child-protection (and national security) interests will be demanding even more loudly that digital identity be required to even look at the pot of filth that is the internet
  • Investing in regulation rather than education will have made everything much, much worse

The way we protect British kids from the Internet is to make better and more capable Britons, rather than to try and kidproof the entire internet.

The least bad thing that Ofcom and the Government could do is to quietly let the matter drop whilst focusing on education.

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#4chan #censorship #ofcom #ofcomFiles #onlineSafety #onlineSafetyAct #PrestonByrne #surveillance

“Does requiring a law abiding internet user to dox themselves … prevent [badness]?”
https://alecmuffett.com/article/114277
#AgeVerification #OnlineSafety #OnlineSafetyAct #PrestonByrne #censorship #surveillance #vpn
“Does requiring a law abiding internet user to dox themselves … prevent [badness]?”

Answer: no.

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