Former President Kocharyan talks security, Russia relations, Turkey normalization

By Mark Dovich

In a press conference on Thursday, former President Robert Kocharyan criticized the current Armenian government for what he sees as mismanagement of the country’s military and of its foreign relations, particularly with Russia and Turkey.

“It seems that this government does not need a combat-ready army,” said Kocharyan, whose decade-long rule was marred by allegations of corruption, vote-rigging, and state cover-ups. “The main component of the country’s security after the [2020 Karabakh] war is still not in the best condition.”

Kocharyan also sharply criticized the Armenian government’s ongoing negotiations with Turkey to normalize relations, arguing that opening the Armenian-Turkish border would benefit Ankara more than it would benefit Yerevan.

Armenia’s economy “will be in shock” if an influx of cheap but relatively high quality Turkish goods is allowed to flow into the country, he said.

“I am not saying that there is no need to open borders, but we need a program for three to five years to protect our markets. [Armenia could] introduce subsidies or taxes on Turkish products, for example.

Kocharyan expressed strong reservations over the Armenian government’s handling of the ongoing talks with Turkey, calling it “the wrong way to normalize relations.”

“What is happening now is beyond my understanding. In fact, the format that I see today is not negotiations with Turkey, but with the Turkey-Azerbaijan tandem, where the agenda is formed by Azerbaijan and voiced by Turkey. This will not yield good results,” Kocharyan said.

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Last month, special envoys representing the Armenian and Turkish governments met in Moscow to hold negotiations on normalizing relations in the first direct talks between Armenian and Turkish officials since 2009. The two sides are slated to meet again later this month in Vienna.

Since last December, Armenia has lifted a ban on imports from Turkey and announced the restart of direct flights between Yerevan and Istanbul.

Kocharyan also cast doubt on the Armenian government’s claim that reopening rail links with Azerbaijan will enable deeper trade ties with Russia, Armenia’s main economic partner.

“If we carry out cargo transportation by the Azerbaijani railway, the route [to Russia] will double in length. This will further remove us from our sales markets,” he said. “Don’t these people [in the Armenian government] look at maps? Or do they simply hate maps?”

On Monday, the head of an Armenian government working group on rail restoration announced that Armenian and Russian specialists will soon begin conducting feasibility studies on reopening one of Armenia’s two Soviet-era rail connections with Azerbaijan.

Read more: ** Armenia to begin work on restoring southern rail link with Azerbaijan**

Meanwhile, Kocharyan made sure to stress the importance of Armenia’s relationship with Russia, a close ally.

“It is beneficial for Russia to have a strong ally in the South Caucasus, as we were before the last war,” he said. “When we talk about state interests, we need to soberly assess what we can gain in either case, which option will lead to a stronger, more organized Armenia, so that it will be able to play an important role in the region.”

However, Kocharyan struck a more ambivalent note on the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a Russia-led mutual defense alliance that covers Armenia, Belarus, and three former Soviet states in Central Asia.

“There is no other structure that could replace the CSTO. We must stay, cooperate, but not hope for protection…It is naive to believe that the CSTO will react in case of an attack on Armenia,” Kocharyan said.

In fact, the CSTO has made clear that Azerbaijan’s incursions several kilometers deep into the Armenian regions of Gegharkunik and Syunik in May 2021 do not fall under the CSTO charter on collective defense.

Kocharyan also responded to a statement made last week by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko on Russia’s relations with the former Soviet states that prompted sharp rebukes from Yerevan.

Last Monday, Lukashenko, who has faced international condemnation for his role suppressing post-election protests that rocked Belarus in 2020, predicted that Russia would swallow up other former Soviet republics, including Armenia, within the next fifteen years as part of a “union state.”

That term refers to a confederation between Belarus and Russia established on paper in a 1999 treaty. However, talks on actually establishing a union have dragged on for decades with few tangible results, even in spite of deepening Belarusian-Russian cooperation since 2020’s post-election crackdown.

Read more: ** The view from Yerevan on Belarus-Russia integration**

“Armenia can’t escape it. Do you think anyone needs them?” Lukashenko said. “Armenia has no place to run.”

That comment prompted a wave of condemnation in Yerevan, with a Foreign Ministry spokesman calling it a “peculiar geopolitical analysis” that “aims to serve, first and foremost, his [Lukashenko’s] domestic political agenda and has nothing to do with Armenia and its foreign policy.”

Later, the Foreign Ministry even went so far as to summon Belarus’ ambassador in Yerevan over Lukashenko’s statement. The Foreign Ministry has refused to comment further on the matter.

Lawmakers from the ruling Civil Contract party also criticized Lukashenko’s statement. Representative Vagharshak Hakobyan, who sits on the parliament’s standing committee on regional and Eurasian integration, said that “the leader of a partner state has no right to express such thoughts to other partner countries.”

But Kocharyan had a different take. According to him, Lukashenko simply “said what others think about Armenia” and laid blame squarely on the Armenian government for “doing nothing to make the leaders of other countries change their opinion.”

"I know Lukashenko well. You can accept him, or not, respect him or disrespect him. But one thing is clear: He says what he thinks,” Kocharyan added.

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Russian diplomat Andrey Kelin traveled to Ankara to discuss the Armenia-Turkey relationship – WikiLeaks, 2005

WikiLeaks – Armenia No 40

2005-12-22 12:29

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 YEREVAN 002209

SUBJECT: TOUCHING BASE ON A TOUGH 2005 FOR ARMENIA-TURKEY

Classified By: CDA A.F. Godfrey for reasons 1.4 (b,d).

SUMMARY

¶1. (C) MFA Middle East Department Chief Artem Aznaurian and MFA Turkey Desk Officer Sahak Sargsyan told us December 22 that 2005 had not produced much progress in the Armenia-Turkey rapprochement process, but said the GOAM would continue to engage in working-level meetings with Turkish diplomats during the upcoming year. Aznaurian was anxious to report that Russian diplomat Andrey Kelin, Head of the CIS Department at the Russian MFA, had consulted with the GOAM recently on issues related to Turkey and even traveled to Turkey to discuss the Armenia-Turkey relationship. On prospects of opening the Armenia-Turkey border, Aznaurian said the GoT was "saving face" by listing settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict as a pre-condition but reiterated the MFA's pessimistic line about prospects for a border opening (in the near-term) absent a breakthrough on N-K. He characterized the relationship as "still caught in the exchange of letters between Kocharian and Erdogan," which did not produce satisfactory movement for either side.

Comment: Despite a fresh line-up of diplomats working the Turkey portfolio, the last set of disappointing meetings between Deputy FM Kirakossian are still hanging heavily over the GOAM [Government of Armenia]. The news that there is no meeting on the calendar between GOAM and GOT [Government of Turkey] Deputy Foreign Ministers is disquieting and we should encourage the two sides not to let this particular channel of communication go silent. End Summary.

2005: NOT A BANNER YEAR FOR ARMENIA-TURKEY

¶2. (C) MFA Middle East Department Chief Artem Aznaurian and MFA Turkey Desk Officer Sahak Sargsyan told us during a December 22 meeting that 2005 had not produced much progress in the Armenia-Turkey rapprochement process. Aznaurian, who is not prone to gratuitous cheerleading when it comes to Turkish-Armenian relations, was more pessimistic than usual about what, if anything, had been accomplished between the two sides over the past year. Aznaurian said the status of the relationship was "still caught up in the exchange of letters between Kocharian and Erdogan." He said that the GOAM had hoped more tangible progress would come out of the exchange of letters, which "did not prove satisfactory for either side." When asked about the status of the somewhat regular meetings between Deputy Foreign Ministers in Vienna, Aznaurian said the latest meetings had not produced anything new in terms of an action plan or confidence building measures (reftel). He said that the GOAM would continue with this format but said there was not a date on the calendar for the next meeting. As during previous meetings, Aznaurian was quick to point to Armenia's representation at the Black Sea Economic Conference (BSEC) in Istanbul as the GOAM's main source for information and policy issues related to Turkey.

TATTLING OR TOUTING RUSSIAN INVOLVEMENT?

¶3. (C) Aznaurian pointed to continued engagement by countries like the United States as key to the Armenia-Turkey rapprochement process. He appeared anxious, however, to point to recent conversations with the Russians on the issue as indication of their growing interest on the issue. He said that the two sides discussed prospects for establishing relations with Turkey during their recent bilateral government consultations. According to Aznaurian, Russian diplomat Andrey Kelin (Head of the CIS Department at the Russian MFA) expressed interest in the issue during his latest meeting with the Armenians and even traveled to Turkey to discuss the Armenia-Turkey relationship. Aznaurian noted that it was outside of Kelin's portfolio to travel to Ankara and asked what the USG [U. S. Government] thought of what might be growing engagement by the Russians on the topic.

BORDER: STILL TIED TO N-K

¶4. (C) Aznaurian reported that immediate prospects for opening the Armenia-Turkey border were still slim. He said the issue was undoubtedly linked to settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict but raised doubts about the extent of the GoT's conviction on this point. Aznaurian predicted that the GoT was merely "saving face" by listing settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict as a pre-condition for opening the border. He said that N-K was always among the Turks' top three pre-conditions but said that they regularly alternate its place on the list "perhaps as a pretext, but probably just to save face" with the Azeris.

COMMENT

¶5. (C) Despite a fresh line-up of diplomats working the Turkey portfolio, memories from the last set of disappointing meetings between Deputy FM Kirakossian and Turkish Deputy Undersecretary Ahmet Uzumcu are still hanging heavily over the GOAM. The news that there is no meeting on the calendar between GOAM and GOT Deputy Foreign Ministers is disquieting and we should encourage the two sides not to let this particular channel of communication go silent.

GODFREY

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Special Envoys from Armenia and Turkey to meet in Moscow

  • Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan makes a number of controversial statements regarding the Karabakh negotiation process.
    • Armenian and Turkish special envoys to meet in Moscow.
    • Former President Robert Kocharyan holds an end of year press conference.

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In an unprecedented move, Russian official statement mentions “Nagorno Karabakh Republic”

  • Russia is ready to assist Armenia and Turkey in normalizing relations, says Russian foreign ministry spokesperson.
    • In an unprecedented move, an official Russian Defense Ministry statement mentions the “Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.”
    • The head of the Russian peacekeeping mission in Karabakh General Muradov, has met with the Azerbaijani soldier who crossed the line of contact and was arrested in Martakert town.

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In an unprecedented move, Russian official statement mentions “Nagorno Karabakh Republic” - CIVILNET

Russia is ready to assist Armenia and Turkey in normalizing relations, says Russian foreign ministry spokesperson. 

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