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TechPowerUp:

> These are the company's second desktop APU generation on Socket AM5 following the Ryzen 8000G series "Phoenix Point." While "Phoenix Point" is based on "Zen 4," the newer Ryzen AI 400 series is built on the "Gorgon Point" silicon powered by the "Zen 5" microarchitecture.

> AMD hasn't maxed out the "Gorgon Point" silicon on the desktop Ryzen AI 400G series … The fully unlocked "Gorgon Point" silicon has 12 cores, 4 of which are "Zen 5," and 8 of which are "Zen 5c." [But] AMD configured [the Ryzen AI 7 450] silicon with 4 "Zen 5" and 4 "Zen 5c" cores. The Ryzen AI 5 440 series chips are configured with 3 "Zen 5" and 3 "Zen 5c" cores. The Ryzen AI 5 435 series chips come with 2 "Zen 5" and 4 "Zen 5c" cores.

https://www.techpowerup.com/346949/amd-ryzen-ai-400g-series-desktop-apus-based-on-4-nm-gorgon-point-with-4p-4c-configuration

... #AMD sacrificed an all Zen 5 design AND a good chunk of the GPU capability for that NPU 🤢

not good news for #USFF homelabbers / couchlabbers / vanlabbers.

AMD Ryzen AI 400G Series Desktop APUs Based on 4 nm "Gorgon Point" with 4P+4C Configuration

AMD earlier today announced the Ryzen AI 400 series desktop APUs in the Socket AM5 package. These are the company's second desktop APU generation on Socket AM5 following the Ryzen 8000G series "Phoenix Point." While "Phoenix Point" is based on "Zen 4," the newer Ryzen AI 400 series is built on the "...

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Kurt Kremitzki Jul 4, 2025

#FreeCAD meets the real world: #3Dprinting #HomeLab enclosures for #USFF (ultra-small form factor) PCs https://dimitrije.website/posts/2024-01-02-homelab-hardware.html

MJ Turner May 7, 2025

@loptimist If you don't actually *need* an SBC, what about a USFF PC? https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimicro-home-lab-revolution/

#homelab #tinyminimicro #usff

Introducing Project TinyMiniMicro Home Lab Revolution

STH Project TinyMiniMicro is set to revolutionize the home lab segment with clusters of high-quality, quiet, low power, and inexpensive nodes

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selfhosting.couchsurfing Apr 8, 2025

would love to snag an Intel 9700T or 10500T #USFF for like $120, I've seem 'em on PCsRefurbished.com once every two three weeks, unit only, no monitor or keyboard (thankfully)

Ryan Oct 27, 2023

10” Homelab rack done. Now to build bare metal K3S. #3dprinting #kubernetes #maas #usff

Amin Girasol Oct 18, 2023

@RobKopp ...and around here, #USFF (ultra-small form factor) PCs are so cheap that they're sometimes free.

selfhosting.couchsurfing Aug 28, 2023

Beelink GTR7 mini-PC Review: A Complete AMD Phoenix Package at 65W

Beelink became one of the first vendors to launch an AMD Phoenix (Zen 4 CPU + RDNA3 iGPU in a power envelop suitable for notebooks) mini-PC lineup when they announced the GTR7 product line.

The company sent over their entry-level version - the GTR7 7840HS - to put through our evaluation routine for small form-factor systems. Beelink is touting the use of vapor chamber-based cooling, allowing the Ryzen 7 7840HS to be configured with a 65W TDP (compared to the 35W-54W cTDP specified by AMD).

We are starting to see more Phoenix-based mini-PCs in the market from the likes of SimplyNUC (Moonstone), Morefine (M600), and MinisForum (UM790 Pro). Compared to these UCFF systems, the Beelink GTR7 seems to have an edge by operating the Phoenix SoC with a higher cTDP configuration and incorporating better connectivity.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/20018/beelink-gtr7-minipc-review-a-complete-amd-phoenix-package-at-65w #ucff #usff #minipc