If you take the time to read this. You will find that Signal App, like any company, when requested by law must provide the data they may have on a phone number. From the phone number, what meta data is available. That's not much but it's not zero. If you've donate to Signal App and have a little trophy icon on your image, you might be at a higher risk of being identified. If you use your normal bank card. Both the phone number and credit card are fairly easy things to mitigate with prepaid card or virtual cards, VoIP number you don't use anywhere else, and using Signals Apps phone number privacy and user names. And don't use your full fucking name. For fucks sake people, this is your private line. This is still the gold standard but you can do a tad bit more to make it substantially more secure. There even hardened versions of The Signal App like #Molly or #LibreSignal
#signalapp #privacy #encryption

https://signal.org/bigbrother/district-of-columbia/

Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia

Signal end-to-end encrypts both content and metadata by default far beyond most of our peers. Our aim is to have access to as close to no data as possible, meaning that we have a fraction of the personal information compared to the average communications service. We simply don’t have access to th...

Signal Messenger

@nikomat @appgefahren: Oder noch viel besser, man nimmt gleich freie Software mit einem förderierten Netzwerk (Jabber oder Matrix z.B.). Man könnte eigentlich meinen, Leute im Fediverse hätten sowas schon gelernt.

#Signal ist leider eine Firma, die explizit 3rd-Party-Clients von ihren Servern wie auch Förderation mit anderen Servern/Systemen ausschließt. Für mich damit ein absolutes NoGo. (Details: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal#readme — Und auf gewissen Systemen war #LibreSignal der einzig mögliche Client.)

GitHub - LibreSignal/LibreSignal: LibreSignal • The truly private and Google-Free messenger for Android.

LibreSignal • The truly private and Google-Free messenger for Android. - LibreSignal/LibreSignal

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@oliver Wobei man da fairerweise sagen muss, dass aktuell mehrere Forks von #Signal gibt, die den offiziellen Server nutzen und (bisher) nicht unterbunden werden. Und nein, ich habe das Theater um #LibreSignal von damals nicht vergessen.
https://www.twinhelix.com/apps/signal-foss/
https://langis.cloudfrancois.fr/
@kuketzblog
Signal-FOSS - TwinHelix

@Arcaik @IngaLovinde @mmu_man

Not jumping anywhere here.

Never been a signal user, neither will I ever install it, because I've never trusted the people behind it and their silly arguments. And for a number of other reasons that are not new.

Check this old toot, for example:
https://mamot.fr/@jz/100406505533058339

Or read more about the way they interacted with #libresignal, or to multiple requests to publish on #f-droid, or to add a different notification strategy, like a websocket interface.

I don't trust Telegram 100% but it's "good enough" for my everyday use, easier to install on a de-googled phone, and made by people that know how to interact with other people.

Jérémie Zimmermann🎶💗🧀🧉 (@[email protected])

Problems we are having with #Signal: * It is and will remain centralized (clear strategy of *not* federating servers) * It requires strong identifiers/selectors (phone#) to use * Author disallows distribution by anyone but Google, although free/libre * It keeps pushing away verification of fingerprint in interface * It relies on Google+Amazon infrastructure * Its funding is shady (OTF = Radio Free Asia = USG) = clearly unethical choices, unjustifiable by accessibility or technological reasons.

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@tvass Before donating to #Signal, read this: https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779 It'd be like donating to a profit-driven corporation. Signal is not there for the greater good- we know this from thier network protectionism & legal bullying of #LibreSignal.
❌ Software Removal | Signal · Issue #779 · privacytools/privacytools.io

Problem with Signal Signal has copious privacy issues making it unfit for privacytools.io endorsement. Users are forced to supply a phone number to Signal (#432) (diagram of mass surveillance) Phon...

@monoxyd, @Kadda: #Signal ist IMHO schlimm, weil es 3rd-party Clients explizit aussperrt. Damit ist mindestens eine der Freiheiten von Open Source passé: Du hast zwar den Source-Code, kannst ihn auch anschauen, aber nicht wirklich selbst modifizieren. Außerdem schränkt das die Nutzbarkeit ein auf Betriebssystem welche die Signal-Leute selbst unterstützen. So ist auch das #LibreSignal für #SailfishOS gestorben. Und Signal für mich.
jukefoxer/Signal-Android

Fork from the JohanW fork of Signal, a private messenger for Android. It adds the option to import Whatsapp conversations. The purpose of this fork is to make the transition to Signal easier. It wa...

"Tusky" isn't a generic word like "office", and the Free Tusky creators are probably at risk of #trademark action for using essentially the same name for such a similar app (#LibreSignal ran into threats of this: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issuecomment-217664961 ). They might be better too use a tongue-in-cheek variant like Trunky or Toothy, that references its origins, but also gives it a unique identity. Like IceWeasel and IceCat do with Firefox, and IceDove does with Thunderbird.
Please add LibreSignal to f-droid · Issue #37 · LibreSignal/LibreSignal

Dear maintainers, I'm reading here: #28 (comment) that the people behind f-droid are willing to have LibreSignal distributed there. What they're waiting for is a pull request from you (last...

@bikecurious
> There is Signal-weechat, Signal-cli and hopefully the new qt desktop client will be packaged soon. None were developed by OWS ppl it looks like.

If they're using "Signal" in their name, and they're not developed by OWS, they're likely to face the same fate as #LibreSignal. Moxie insisted that they stop using the Signal trademark, and then insisted that any app not using the Signal branding (and thus controlled by OWS) not connect to their servers.
@gentoorebel @noorul

Anyone else noted the irony of a guy who sells a company called "#WhisperSystems" to a corporation for a few million $, then starts a new company called #OpenWhisperSystems with a product call #Signal, then threatens to sue anyone who calls a fork something like #LibreSignal?