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My take(s) on that #Emacs and #vim comparison part:
https://karl-voit.at/2026/01/23/Emacs-vs-vim-Cargo-Folding-Bike/
and https://karl-voit.at/2015/10/23/Emacs-is-not-just-an-editor/
@tusharhero thanks for the shout-out!
“people who have gone from neo/VI/m to Emacs or wise verse - what made you swap? what made you then either stay or revert?”
@hell the article mentioned by Tusharhero is a little long, so to summarize it in a way that more directly answers your question: I basically realized that Emacs was not a text editor, it was a programming language designed for text editing that came with a built-in text editor and IDE. And the built-in editor and IDE are setup so that you don’t really need to learn the Emacs Lisp programming language to use it.
I had become frustrated with my editor (Vim) my terminal multiplexer (Screen or TMux), my shell (Bash), and many of my other CLI tools all being programmed, scripted, and/or configured in different languages. For example, when trying to get my shell to notify my editor that a build process completed, I was able to program Vim and my shell scripts to both use inotify or similar tools to do so, but I just thought it was a little ridiculous that I had to hack together solutions to these problems.
So I started thinking about ways of using the CLI with just one programming language and one runtime. Then it hit me: Emacs is exactly that: a combination of Tmux, Vim, Bash, and dozens of other tools all programmed in Lisp. Once I realized that, I decided I didn’t care how hard it was to use, it was exactly the tool I needed so I had better just learn how to use it. And it turned out not to be too hard anyways.
The best part was, I hardly ever need to write my own tools anymore because I was always able to find some Emacs Lisp code somewhere that solved practically any problem I had ever come across.
If you’d like to know more, then yeah, read my article, or ask me anything you’d like here on the fediverse!
people who have gone from neo/VI/m to Emacs or wise verse - what made you swap? what made you then either stay or revert?
@jpmens @ed1conf ed needs an add-on such as mountpoint-s3 [1] to do this. Working on a way to do this using #emacs_tramp, which comes built into #emacs. This may settle the #editorWar s.
#Emacs vs. #vim Real World Analogy: #CargoBike Vs. #FoldingBike
https://karl-voit.at/2026/01/23/Emacs-vs-vim-Cargo-Folding-Bike/
This isn't supposed to deliver fuel to the gratuitous #editorwar.
It's supposed to clear up a few things why the two tools are so fundamentally different.
HTH
#YouTube #AI gets automatic key concept identification wrong:
I'm about to watch a video about two project interaction libraries for my favorite #TextEditor (#Emacs). They're called #Projectile and project.el.
Below the video, YouTube shows an image of a missile, under a heading that says "Key Concepts". Below the image, it says: "A projectile is an object that is propelled by the application".
The hashtags #OOP and #EditorWar come to my mind.
#vim: much more versatile than I thought but still just for wankers. 😈😜
@ollej The best editor is both!
@xi I’ve made a vim plugin to help you evaluate the elisp code when you edit your .emacs file with vim.
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