#Vodafone #DSLite hat mir mal wieder ein Bein gestellt: Konnte von einem Standort eines Freundes meinen heimischen Server (Vodafone-Kabel, richtiger Dual Stack) via #WireGuard nur mit einem Bruchteil der Geschwindigkeit erreichen (ca. 3 Mbit/s). War über einen längeren Zeitraum konstant gleich beschissen. In umgekehrter Richtung war es bei Transfers ähnlich.

Tja, was hat geholfen? MTU auf 1300 setzen (war auf 1420 gesetzt). Immer dasselbe, ey! 😵‍💫 Hatten wir übrigens auch so mit #OpenVPN-Verbindungen auf der Arbeit von Dual-Stack-Lite-Anschlüssen wegen Home-Office. Aber da musste auch erst mal drauf kommen... denke vernünftiges Erreichbarkeit via #IPv6 hätte auch geholfen.

⚠️ Also: Habt ihr Internet via TV-Kabel (mit DS-Lite) und eure Netzverbindung lahmt oder ist unzuverlässig? Versucht es mit einer niedrigen MTU.

#DualStackLite #Network #MTU #DualStack #Internet

@dlakelan @tschaefer sadly #OpenWRT isn't an option in my case.

The problem is rather due to my ISP being incompetent and lazy assholes, and unless you have someone who can kick some asses around Vodafone Germany I doubt that...

  • And until I got stable #IPv6 #WAN-side there's no point doing it #LAN-side either, because it'll only make applications crash that prefer IPv6 and will refuse to go #DualStack or #IPv4 once they got an IPv6 (because for some reason the devs assumed everyone will only have #CGNAT / #DualStackLite scenarios, and not the opposite of that I guess)...

Yes, this annoys me the hell out of it too!

@mook @0xIO32

like obviously ipv4 is a pain, but it's also not that big a deal either it's a legacy thing

There are still devices & software being manufactured & sold that are #IPv4only and will refuse to work if they don't have a static #IPv4 on #WAN.

#IPv6 is sadly not yet mandated otherwise #CGNAT & bs like #DualStackLite would've never been created.

@landley @jschauma @ryanc @0xabad1dea yeah, the exhaustion problem would've been shoved back with a #64bit or sufficiently delayed by a 40bit number.

Unless we also hate #NAT and expect every device to have a unique static #IP (which is a #privacy nightmare at best that "#PrivacyExtensions" barely fixed.)

  • I mean they could've also gone the #DECnet approach and use the #EUI48 / #MAC-Address (or #EUI64) as static addressing system, but that would've made #vendors and not #ISPs the powerful forces of allocation. (Similar to how technically the #ICCID dictates #GSM / #4G / #5G access and not the #IMEI unless places like Australia ban imported devices.

I guess using a #128bit address space was inspired by #ZFS doing the same before, as the folks who designed both wanted to design a solution that clearly will outlive them (way harder than COBOL has outlived Grace Hopper)...

If I was @BNetzA I would've mandated #DualStack and banned #CGNAT (or at least the use of CGNAT in #RFC1918 address spaces) as well as #DualStackLite!

@leeloo Until regulators like @BNetzA get their shit together and mandate a /64 of #IPv6 to be supplied to every #internet connection with no exceptioms or charges and mandates services and devices to support it as well, we'll not he above to get rid of #IPv4.

Meanwhile it would be cheaper and easier for me to literally get my own private /24 of IPv4s than to convince my ISP to offer me even a single /48 of IPv6s...

Hurricane Electric Free IPv6 Tunnel Broker

@tschaefer fängt damit an dass bis heute nicht alle #IPv6 haben oder bekommen können...

  • Bspw.: Verweigert mein #ISP die Bereitstellung von echtem #DualStack. (Deshalb kann ich diesen Post auch nicht direkt aufrufen!)

Umgekehrt sind bis heute nicht alle #Diensteanbieter & Services von #IPv4 auf #IPv6 migriert worden.

Sorgt zwar für Henne-Ei-Problem, wäre aber durch die @BNetzA lösbar indem diese zwangsweise je IPv4 mindestens ein /64 an IPv6 vorschreibt und Bullshit wie #CGNAT [insbesondere mit #RFC1918-Addressraum] verbietet!

  • Besonders Bullshit wie #DualStackLite ist murks: Entweder korrekt Dual-Stack oder lasst es sein!!!
Thomas Schäfer (@[email protected])

@[email protected] Du hast die Behauptung aufgestellt, dass IPv6 only vieles bricken würde. Also was?

ipv6.social

@stanford @kobayashi90 well, my notation proposal is just a way to note down the #IPv6 and it could allow for a "#4over6" transitional mechalism (similar to #6over4) by specifying a fixed /96 subnet for automatic PAT+NAT so we'd not have shit like #DualStackLite with #CGNAT which is just horrible.

Bonus Points if your (mobile) ISP uses RFC1918 adress spaces, bricking #VPN's!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/6over4
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

6over4 - Wikipedia

@JanFi0PN leider nur "#BisZu" ohne #SLA's oder garantierte Bandbreiten und dann wohl auch mit kapittem #DualStackLite / #CGNAT.

@lamp weird...

Personally I think that proper #DualStack should be mandatory.

Otherwise we'd completed #IPv6 transitions, because #CGNAT + #DualStackLite reward #lazyness in terms of #IPv4.

@alisonw @alexhaydock Worse is that they don't even do #DualStackLite aka #IPv6 + #CGNAT.