💁‍♂️ Oh, behold the brave soul who yearns for Crocker's Rules—a permission slip for your friends to verbally joust with you, all in the name of "directness." 🤦‍♂️ This is the social equivalent of begging for a wedgie and calling it a growth opportunity. 🙄
https://lr0.org/blog/p/crocker/ #CrockersRules #Directness #VerbalJousting #GrowthOpportunity #SocialDynamics #HackerNews #ngated
I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me | La Vita Nouva

I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me | La Vita Nouva

Having always liked/wanted a direct communication at work, that is, preferring that people "gets to the point" in the most efficient manner, coming across "Crocker's Rules" is never too late. See also the note originally introducing the concept.

"By declaring commitment to Crocker's rules, one authorizes other debaters to optimize their messages for information, even when this entails that emotional feelings will be disregarded. This means that you have accepted full responsibility for the operation of your own mind, so that if you're offended, it's your own fault. The underlying assumption is that rudeness is sometimes necessary for effective conveyance of information, if only to signal a lack of patience or tolerance: after all, knowing whether the speaker is becoming angry or despondent is useful rational evidence. Two people using Crocker's Rules should be able to communicate all relevant information in the minimum amount of time, without paraphrasing or social formatting."

But:

"Note that Crocker's Rules does not mean one is authorized to insult people; it means that other people don't have to worry about whether they are insulting you. Crocker's Rules are a discipline, not a privilege. Furthermore, taking advantage of Crocker's Rules does not imply reciprocity. How could it? Crocker's Rules are something you do for yourself, to maximize information received - not something you grit your teeth over and do as a favor."

So:

"Crocker's rules encourage being tactful with anyone who hasn't specifically accepted them. This follows the general principle of being "liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send"."

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Crocker's Rules - LessWrong

Crocker's rules, named after and framed by Lee Daniel Crocker, is a social communication protocol or etiquette used to reduce emotional impact on debate. Crocker was an early contributor to Wikipedia, and, with Larry Sanger, Fred Bauder and others who chose to contribute pseudonymously or anonymously, helped to form its rules to maximize objective reporting. By declaring commitment to Crocker's rules, one authorizes other debaters to optimize their messages for information, even when this entails that emotional feelings will be disregarded. This means that you have accepted full responsibility for the operation of your own mind, so that if you're offended, it's your own fault. The underlying assumption is that rudeness is sometimes necessary for effective conveyance of information, if only to signal a lack of patience or tolerance: after all, knowing whether the speaker is becoming angry or despondent is useful rational evidence. Two people using Crocker's Rules should be able to communicate all relevant information in the minimum amount of time, without paraphrasing or social formatting. Thus, one who has committed to these rules largely gives up the right to complain about emotional provocation, "flaming", "trolling", "abuse" (hopelessly subjective terms) and other alleged violations of etiquette. They give these rights up in the interest of effective debate. Note that Crocker's Rules does not mean one is authorized to insult people; it means that other people don't have to worry about whether they are insulting you. Crocker's Rules are a discipline, not a privilege. Furthermore, taking advantage of Crocker's Rules does not imply reciprocity. How could it? Crocker's Rules are something you do for yourself, to maximize information received - not something you grit your teeth over and do as a favor. Similar protocols (contrasted) In contrast to radical honesty, Crocker's rules encourage being tactful with anyone who hasn't specifically accepted them. This follo

Crocker’s rules – les règles de Crocker – piqure de rappel – Pierre DAL ZOTTO