I thought I had found a Qassam car bomber obituary referencing the story Israelis think is #72virgins … but no, in this example the beings they were referring to were more like the apostles

google translate gets "noble companions" and my Arabic is rudimentary

"As for his brothers in (the Qassam and Palestine mosques), tears streamed from their eyes in grief over the separation from their dear (Ayman) and in joy at his martyrdom. He always told them about his love to meet Allah the Almighty and his love to meet the noble companions in the gardens of bliss, and then they prayed for his forgiveness and satisfaction."

Original

أما إخوانه في (مسجدي القسام وفلسطين) فقد انهمرت الدموع من عيونهم حزناً على فراق (أيمن) الغالي وفرحاً باستشهاده، فقد كان يحدثهم دوماً عن حبه للقاء الله تبارك وتعالى وحبه للقاء الصحابة الأجلاء في جنات النعيم ثم دعوا له بالمغفرة والرضوان.

seemed like it might be roughly the same story nope … it's these guys

الصحابة الأجلاء

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sahabah

most of the names on this list look a bit incompatible with the #Israeli version of the #72_virgins story?

It's from 1993 … Gregorian dates only 1993-09-12
even spelled out in words
الثاني عشر من سبتمبر من العام ألف وتسعمائة وثلاث وتسعين
with the Latin month name سبتمبر September

archive of the obituary https://archive.md/SxFvM

When did izkor start?

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List of Sahabah - Wikipedia

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there isn't one because that #72virgins story isn't Arabic

it's an Islamophobic trope from Israel loosely based on central Asian Hadith / folklore

"meet the angels" is probably a better description of what they sometimes talk about in Arabic, there is often more emphasis on being reunited with dead relatives

Ansar Allah are a bit nuttier than most Palestinian groups, maybe they're different, but I sceptical of the idea unless you have a source that doesn't get its story from #MEMRI or #PalWatch or Assaf Moghadam

#PalWatch call this video "Glorification of terrorists and terrorism"

they both get shot, she is clearly unarmed, he's shot in the back.

before she is killed, they look at each other, they know each other? or they're flirting and falling in love? but they're reunited in heaven? She's surrounded by angels, but he's looking for a specific person.

from this, Israelis get #72virgins ?

have Israelis never seen a movie before!?

https://www.palwatch.org.il/main.aspx?fi=565 archive https://web.archive.org/web/20250426153208/https://www.palwatch.org.il/main.aspx?fi=458&fld_id=458&doc_id=20341

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חדשות

מבט לתקשורת הפלסטינית (PMW- Palestinian Media Watch) נוסד בשנת 1996, להוות מכון מחקר ישראלי לחקר החברה הפלסטינית. PMW בוחן את החברה הפלסטינית מזוויות רבות, מתעד ומנתח את הרשות הפלסטינית באמצעות כלי התקשורת וספרי הלימוד שלה. המיקוד העיקרי של הארגון הוא על המסר המועבר מההנהגה הפלסטינית - הרשות הפלסטינית, פת

I think #72virgins - as an #Islamophobic #propaganda meme - functions as a thought terminating cliche? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_cliche

But it pre-empts the argument rather than stopping it, is there a different name for that?

It obviously plays into classic #racist tropes (about pretty much any group) that they are irrational and oversexed.

But it's doing something else…

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Thought-terminating cliché - Wikipedia

From what I gather the #Houthi could just attrit... but I doubt it. What’s Arabic for “Pussy via Death”?

#72Virgins
#SplendidMorale