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@ElectricTrike you forget, there’s five living ex-Presidents. Definitely sounds like the kind of conversation he was having with himself…
@luciedigitalni @stilgherrian pretty sure #1 could have easily been “it won’t keep kids off social media”. At best it’ll keep _some_ kids off social media, and _most_ kids of _some_ platforms. Other kids will just move to less regulated platforms, and it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. Any surprise that numbers on Lemon8 and Yope have surged recently?
@metaning @MarkDeasy that, and much of the evidence that went into the original inquiry would be inadmissible in a criminal trial.
> The Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions later decided that the original AFP investigation could not lead to a prosecution, because of the likelihood that information it had received from the Brereton inquiry would be inadmissible, due to the Inspector-General's use of special coercive powers to question serving members of the ADF.
@pospi still comes down to the pesky problem of warrants (which they couldn’t get just for an “audit”), and the fact that as far as can tell they’d need police to get the warrant if they wanted telco data. Forensic dump of your phone (as per the ABC article)? 100%. I know for a fact they do that. But cell tower data would be pretty extreme.
@james @pospi also, the ABC article is specifically talking about digital forensics (ie they have physical access to the phone, and copy data from it to analyse). This is not “cell tower data”, and other than needing a warrant, it’s also not scalable to a point they could use to “validate logbook claims” even if they could / wanted to.
@pospi it’s been a while since I’ve read the Telecommunications Interception Act, but I just had a quick scan again (great bedtime reading for insomniacs! 🤣), and I’m pretty sure ATO is not one of the agencies that can use the powers in the act.
Also, how would this even work at any scale that would allow this to happen in anything but the most extreme cases of abuse? I keep paper logs in bad handwriting, that never even make it as far as my accountant. Even if the ATO requested these logs, they’d need to digitise them, index them, somehow automatically understand the format of my specific log, then somehow match up each trip (which may include very descriptive terms like “mail”, “office”, or “Bob”) with the location of my phone… that comes with me on trains, in other people’s cars, and lots of other places. Also, I don’t record the time of my trips. How would they know if the 10ks they saw my phone move was, or was not, the 10ks I’m claiming that day?
I have no doubt that for serious infringements, police might get involved and use their powers to aid with the investigation, but to assume this happens on any regular basis just to “validate logbook claims” seems incredibly far fetched.