Christopher Slye

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Adobe Type from 1997–2020. Letterform Archive board. SOTA ex-officio. Collector of rare compact discs. Cocktail enthusiast.
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@vhbelvadi Minion is probably my favorite as well. It’s a near perfect typeface IMO.
@nicksherman @Okay @mass_driver Oh and to your last point: Yes, although I would never refer to “Helvetica Bold Italic” as a typeface. To me, that’s a style. Sometimes a font. It’s the file you download or install, or the style you select from a font menu.

@nicksherman @Okay @mass_driver Well you did refer to it as a “vestige of faulty logic.” 🙂

I would agree with what I think you just said, which is that “typeface” works fine unless the occasion calls for greater precision. I would only say that, for me, saying “typeface” almost always suffices for “typeface family” (which I almost never say).

Well, in a licensing context I would certainly clarify “Do you need the whole family?” or something like that.

@Okay @nicksherman @mass_driver Funny – but kinda yes? It definitely gets hairy when a design morphs into loosely-related styles, like Helvetica or Gill Sans.

In my mind, “typeface” is the word that represents the distinctive thing you made; the thing a designer chooses. “What typeface are we going to use for this ad campaign?” “What’s the typeface on that movie poster?” I don’t feel the need to say “typeface family” in cases like that.

@nicksherman @mass_driver Gotta say I use “typeface” for everything. Minion is a typeface. Helvetica is a typeface.
I made a high-res scan and PDF of this charming booklet, circa 1991: the Adobe Type 1 Fonts Communication Handbook. https://archive.org/details/adobe-type-1-fonts
Adobe Type 1 Fonts Communication Handbook : Adobe Systems Incorporated : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

This Adobe handbook from 1991–1992 “provides an overview of Adobe’s type technology and provides answers to many of the most-frequently-asked questions...

Internet Archive
@wtrmt I can ask him. Possibly not. Robert mostly keeps to himself so I wouldn’t ever expect him to have the usual “contact me” kind of thing. At the very least, I could forward an email to him.
@wtrmt Excellent! Note, though, that Poetica was not Robert’s first typeface for Adobe. That would be (both) Utopia and Adobe Garamond in 1989.
This looks like the formal end of an era – the muted conclusion of a decades-long program, Adobe Originals, that has been ebbing away. Not exactly surprising given Adobe’s, er, current product focus, but a melancholic moment. I hope Robert gets the send-off he deserves for his 38 years of service.
I’ve learned that Robert Slimbach — one of our greatest living type designers — is being let go by Adobe. He’s near retirement, but I’m disappointed he’s being shown the door rather than leaving on his own terms. To me, it’s more evidence of Adobe’s waning interest in original type development.