@luvstiger 🤎💛: we can only speak fully to Outer Wilds but think it will apply broadly to the games you're talking about

With games like Outer Wilds you just really have to fall in love with the atmosphere / premise from almost the get-go otherwise you're going to burn out before the Narrative can really grip you.

Would also say that generally having a deep love for pure exploration in games is the secondary requirement. Like we play Minecraft as an exploration game instead of a building / creative game.

When we played Outer Wilds with daddy we both were immediately drawn in by the approach to space flight. Then our approach to the game in general was to pick a direction then focus on that area until it was clear we could not do anything else in that place with the information we have. Very methodical. B-lining it straight back to where we left off in the last cycle.

We also eventually grew to really appreciate the cyclical nature of the game. It gave natural breaks, times where you knew you didn't have enough time to do another thing in the loop so you just kinda looked around and thought about what you learned and how that fits into what you know.

As we learned more we got a deeper emotional connection to the characters and worlds even if they stayed the same. We wanted to find a way to save those things because they were beautiful. It was intrinsic

After trying to watch another friend of ours play Outer Wilds it was really clear that if you don't have the inherent love of the world you're not going to get it

Like when we started outer wilds, we immediately jumped off the cliff and died only for the cycle to reset and went "oohhhhhhhh". That was the clicking moment even before trying the flight mechanics.

Or like in disco elysium when you go down the stairs and Harry has an internal conversation about wanting to sing a sad song on the bar's stage and how that would be an absolutely fantastic idea. Another click of "oh yes yes yes"

And we think that's ultimately okay. Even if we had a very intimate, unique, and powerful experience with Outer Wilds — and wish everyone could — it's just not going to happen for everyone.

This became really clear when trying to play BotW / TotK. The world just didn't grab us, the click never came, and we didn't want to follow the happy path in an exploration game so we'd get past the first dungeon or two and think "well it's just going to be this over and over, meh"

@Hyperion21 💜: quote "My hips are like, 50 gods damned inches."

I think they're exaggerating a bit 

@Hyperion21 🤎: HOW DID I MISS THAT BLOBFOX    

(n ya ty its one of my favs from black milk)

@DankandDebauchery 🤎🖤: pretty  

So if your keeping in the pot you're gonna need to water it more often, the best advice we have for figuring out when to water is to feel the weight of the plant right after watering, then keep checking it each day, when it's noticeably lighter then water again!

If it's in the ground you're gonna hafta look at it a lot, which will be easy cause it's pretty. We haven't had any of these but generally you can tell if something needs water desperately if the leaves aren't firm (ymmv, again check how they feel about an hour after watering). Like if the leaves are flaccid or soft to the touch then it needs water.

In the ground you can also water it a bit each day but just remember that watering too much is bad too. You gotta keep in mind the environment so if it's hotter you need to water more often!

(The little save water sticker will probably mean you won't have to water it every day, but if you want it to really thrive you probably shouldn't wait more than a week between waterings)

@Rusty @Hyperion21 🤎💛: imo they're totally different styles, like our go to for stuff like breakfast sandwiches, burgers n pulled pork is definitely american cheese but if we're talking grilled cheese? cheddar might edge out there altho it's a rough competition

but for all of em it depends on the context, like if we're making a fancy burger with pesto and lots of black pepper we're 100% going with cheddar

but otoh if we're looking for that classic nostalgia grilled cheese it's obviously gotta be american