I jumped around the interview out of morbid curiosity and, yeah, she kinda sucks. She underestimates how much gendercrit ideology factors into WPATH's decisions. But at least she pushed back on Klein insisting that surely the government has some role to play there. She pushed back in other ways too but again the people who are going to take the anti-trans-except-for-McBride position are going to pretend that the main thrust of her side of the discussion was to say that trans people are being too ridiculous and that's the problem.

Anyway, I thought this statement, by one of the bloggers at Yglesias' blog, was especially funny. Yes, broadly, people who have a stake in the matter are results-oriented. Pragmatism is not the same thing as being nice to bigots or moderate though. Trans people are good at choosing battles in personal lives and tend to have nearly infinite patience. But it's also weird to cherry-pick this one individual as a representative of what positions you'd take if you had a stake in the matter. Because the entire population of people who have a stake in the matter, trans people, are especially prone to thinking that NYT, Matt Yglesias and countless pundits are transphobic. People who don't have a stake in the matter tend to think that's a ridiculous claim. Plenty of annoying trans activists who make the center-left goons upset are at least as thoughtful, if not more so, than McBride.