@peter_haas

68 Followers
65 Following
51 Posts
#Robot & #AI guy #PovertyReduction|#Climate|#Cyber| #Making Former BrownHCRI AIDG TEDfellow/EchoingGreen
Fellow. Views are my own.

You know what would be nice?

An "open firmware" project, where people produce and share FOSS firmware for common household devices, replacing the manufacturer's firmware with a decrapified version.

A smart TV? Reflash it with FOSS firmware, which removes tracking, calls to the manufacturer's servers, and any Internet-connected services that you don't want?

A printer? It's now yours. No ink subscription, or need for an app to print remotely.

And so on.

A man can dream, eh.

@peter_haas @me_ @regehr oh, well, if you want my opinion....

Plan 9 had some really cool ideas, but they were products of their time, the place they were developed, the group that developed them, and the issues that were important to that group in that time and place.

The idea of per-process, mutable name spaces and small file trees containing end points for IPC as a means for building a system was interesting and led to some really elegant demonstrations: I've always liked how one could import one's namespace from a terminal onto a CPU server, thus being able to (privately!) access all of one's local devices remotely. No need for X11 or a network sound protocol; just open the relevant device file and you're done. In many ways, Plan 9 was a better Unix than Unix, which is unsurprising given who developed it.

But the question must be asked, is building a better Unix all that relevant? Are highly synchronous system interfaces and files as _the_ metaphor for system interaction still relevant in 2023? More importantly, should they be? I would argue that they are less so than in the late 1980s (and I think some good judges would agree with me on that).

Then there's the implementation.... Plan 9 worked well enough on the sorts of machines available at Bell Labs in the 80s and 90s, but let's be honest: these are interesting ideas ensconced in research-quality code. In terms of reliability, it seemed to exist in this limbo somewhat midway between 7th Edition Unix and 4.3BSD for, well, ever. And then there's the C dialect: I think this was a clear win in 1989. In 2023? Not so much. It underspecifies on important things (atomicity of primitive operations, for instance) and assumes too much (sizes of primitive types). Some things were pure misfeatures (members of unnamed structs embedded in a struct become elements of the outer struct and we can pun on those has led to some weird contention issues with locks and reference counts). These days, aesthetics of some constructs or typedefs aside, I honestly think that C23 does everything that Plan 9 C did, but better.

So yeah. Plan 9: a highly influential research system, and I actually do run it in a few places these days, but it never evolved to be the system I hoped it would become. There was more hope for commercialization of Inferno (as a reimplementation of the plan9 ideas) but of course that never happened either. More's the pity.

Interestingly, there's a tie-in to Plan 9 (and Inferno!) from Wirth's work: the `acme` text editor was based on ideas from Oberon.

@me_ @regehr seeing @cross on this thread leaves me hoping for a side thread on the merits and issues with Plan 9 and Inferno! Dan was a man ahead of his time! (Also seeing the Lisa gives me cooperative multitasking shivers!)
@ex_06 @Mer__edith I really think there's a non mobile coin digital transfer play. Take on Venmo with more privacy oriented transactions. Maybe use the mobile coin infrastructure and layer it with a USD denominated transaction layer? Of course that would be a regulatory burden but maybe worth it? I think your average bear is crypto shy these days, but there is a play in taking on an anti privacy digital money service like venmo.

Really proud of Signal, of this piece, and so happy to help lead an organization willing to be honest about what others hide: the incredible cost of developing consumer tech, and why it’s so hard (but rewarding!) to build tech that doesn’t rely on monetizing surveillance.

https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/

Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive

Signal is the world’s most widely used truly private messaging app, and our cryptographic technologies provide extra layers of privacy beyond the Signal app itself. Since launching in 2013, the Signal Protocol—our end-to-end encryption technology—has become the de facto standard for private commu...

Signal Messenger
@Mer__edith I don't quite have 50 million rattling around under the couch cushions but if you figured out a freemium fee for service I'd pay for it as I'm sure would many others. Donation only services are an odd psychology because suddenly I am weighing signal donations vs feeding starving kids or toilets in Haiti.
Signal's Meredith Whittaker: AI is fundamentally 'a surveillance technology' | TechCrunch

Why is it that so many companies that rely on monetizing the data of their users seem to be extremely hot on AI? If you ask Signal president Meredith

TechCrunch
Can anybody explain to me the weird targeting of museums and art by extinction rebellion? Just seems like an off topic attention grab that really does nothing but alienate potential allies? Like where are the banner unfurlings at fuel depots, refineries and drilling holes? Go target oil companies?
"A fake version of the private messaging app Signal has found a way onto Google Play and appears to be linked to a Chinese spy operation, researchers claimed on Wednesday." https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2023/08/30/malicious-signal-app-planted-on-google-play-by-china-linked-cyber-spies/
A Fake Signal App Was Planted On Google Play By China-Linked Hackers

Hackers who previously targeted Uyghurs evaded Google Play security checks to push a fake Signal app for Android. It uses a never previously-documented method to spy on the encrypted comms tool.

Forbes

Tale as old as time: hackers hack stalkerware company because stalkerware is low-quality crap.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/26/brazil-webdetetive-spyware-deleted/?guccounter=1

TechCrunch is part of the Yahoo family of brands