@Colman This is pretty much the heart of what I'm talking about, much more concisely expressed than I evidently managed.
Europe *thinks* it's a land of nations and long-established histories/traditions/identities. It's actually much more complicated - and interesting - than that.
@Colman For centuries, I'd argue. But yes, I'd agree the 80s was a bit of a turning point on the political side, and that Reagan/Thatcher were significant. Normalised a lot of the more extreme noises of the 70s. Took us Vs them back to nationalism after a few decades of it being more ideology.
I'm mostly trying to avoid explicitly talking politics with this new venture, but it's going to be hard, eh?