@ramsey @zkat @matrix same. I never could get it running reliably. Although I've paid for ems for ..a couple of years now? And it works great. I keep it to friends and family though so it only handles about twenty members. I think it's great for that use case.

I'm a bit more suspect about trying to run a larger community using matrix/ems, but that's probably my own insecurity talking more than anything else.