CJ Dunn

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@jasonsantamaria It is indeed amazing how well this works extra small. I wonder where else besides a type specimen this size could work?

The 5pt text isn't for paragraphs. But surely other sites could have short bits of text, labels, notes, marginalia… things which are not crucial to know but are there for the curious. I would love to see web designers put this to use for micro sizes. If not 5pt, maybe 6pt or so?

I was catching up on @letterror’s notes for his recent Action Grotesque and marveling at the 5pt(!) text captions (rendered as 6.66667px). It’s “legible” for me, but that’s also relative (I still need to lean close).

It’s wonderfully bonkers that this looks so crisp! I don’t think this sizing makes sense for screen use outside of a specimen display, but such a flex of fantastic design down to a micro scale. I love it, and want to find a project to use this family. 👏

https://letterror.com/actiongrotesque/

@db Interesting, thank you! Any ideas where this version of Noto Sans CJK would have come from? Some subsetter perhaps? I can't seem to find any "legitimate" download sources to link to with fonts named this way, only random git repos

Does anyone know what the suffixes "B5pc-H" mean in Noto Sans CJK? For example: NotoSansCJKtc-Bold-B5pc-H

I know that "tc" in the family name is for Traditional Chinese. Perhaps "-H" is for Horizontal typesetting? What is B5pc?

This is showing up as a missing font in a branding document. I want to point the person to the correct place to download the missing fonts. When I download from https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Sans+TC I don't see "CJK" in the font family name and I don't see any suffixes. Any ideas?

@cjtype One little trick I show to my @TypeMedia students every year is to look at text rotated by 90 degrees. This way text will appear more as a “railroad” and you can spot errors in overshoots more easily.
@paulvanderlaan Thank you! That’s a great suggestion

Overshoots are one of those things that I am constantly surprised by. I will think certain curved glyphs should overshoot by the same number of units, and maybe at first they do. But as the design changes, or I spend more time with it, my eyes tell a different story and I need to adjust the overshoots again.

Trusting ones eyes is one of the most difficult aspect of typeface design in my experience. And like any other muscle, no amount of intellectualizing it makes this improve. Just more reps

Font The Pain Away

@mia font-variation-settings will work to specify the weights you need with fonts like this. This used to be the only way when VF first came out.

FYI the type designer will just need to add a "map" to their designspace, to map their "design values", 90 or 215, to "user values", like 400 or 900. https://github.com/fonttools/fonttools/blob/main/Doc/source/designspaceLib/scripting.rst#option-add-a-map

As a type designer I like getting emails like this from my customer because 1) I can improve things and 2) yay, people are actually using the variable fonts!!

fonttools/Doc/source/designspaceLib/scripting.rst at main · fonttools/fonttools

A library to manipulate font files from Python. Contribute to fonttools/fonttools development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

I’ve also been using this promo video as an excuse to make audio tracks in Ableton Live. I often use this website https://splice.com/ where you can purchase samples of instruments, drum loops, melody loops… You pay for the elements, but they are royalty-free so the songs you make from them can be used on youtube etc.

They kind of remind me of fonts. If you start with high quality elements it’s really easy to make a nice composition. Like licensing a nice font to make a logotype or poster