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@jonmichaels it's a Boomer thing

@hannumatilainen yes, rules wise the two systems are virtually identical to me. The only difference seems to be the modifiers are 50-100% higher than equivalent 5E modifiers, which is a function of all the smaller individual modifiers you get from character generation. A couple of my players who are more casual players didn't want to deal with that, or the number of special abilities PCs gain as they advance. I think veteran players will be far more welcoming, though.

@hannumatilainen anyone looking to switch should look at the Pathbuilder App and create some characters along with their GM/Players beforehand. Character creation and options in character advancement can be daunting for some players to the point of being too bloated for them. We recreated our 6th level 5E group as PF2E, and hoo boy. Some of the bonuses and abilities in PF caused even experienced players to pause at the complexity.

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@jafo lol no