@kottke

We can advocate for trans healthcare access and civil rights without making false equivalences to Jim Crow. These comparisons diminish the unique horror of systemic racial terror that Black Americans endured for generations.

Each civil rights struggle deserves to be understood in its own context. Making these overwrought historical comparisons weakens rather than strengthens arguments for trans rights and healthcare access.

@Edent

What do we want?
CHANGE!
When do we want it?
IMPERCEPTIBLY OVER MANY YEARS, SO THE RICH AREN'T SPOOKED AND PROPERTY PRICES DON'T FALL!

@tclark

Bless!

@GeePawHill

I admire your perseverance in communities like this and, if they work for you, then fine, they work for you. My answer came across strong because I was more answering the last bit of your comment "Co-ops and communities are the answer to the rapacious capitalism that is destroying our world" - I'm not actually against intentional communities or co-ops at all - they rock (if they work). My objection is more to the sweeping anti-capitalist conclusion and perhaps the tone of moral certainty about it. I grew up amongst Catholicism and so am against moral certainty which infects so many irreligious (see how much religious fervour and certainty there is amongst the effective altruists).

I think there are many answers, most within capitalism and I don't think our world is being destroyed either. That's all.

Personally I think capitalism will save the world (fluffy communities full of motivated individuals would not have revolutionised agriculture, created vaccines and globally reduced extreme poverty) and make it all better but I get that's controversial.

@tclark I understand he is investing 4 billion euros in Germany to produce huge amounts of Tesla cars. Not very fascistic...

The editor of Die Welt said "Musk's diagnosis is correct, but his therapeutic approach that only the AfD can save Germany is fatally wrong" - The Christmas market attack has inflamed matters - fairly or unfairly. I've observed similar patterns in Britain where avoiding difficult conversations about integration challenges in economically disadvantaged areas ultimately led to increased social tensions.

Drawing parallels between Musk publishing an op-ed in Die Welt and the rise of fascism misunderstands history - Germany's turn to Nazism in the 1930s emerged from a complex crisis involving post-WWI economic collapse, political instability, and social upheaval, not simply from newspaper editorials.

@GeePawHill I can't agree - I think something was sold to the people in the 60's and it was a wrong framing that still lingers.

"We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled that 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling "consciousness expansion" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is tending the light at the end of the tunnel."

Its a bit harsh and i think overly dramatic but i've always felt communes and co-ops all suffer from this view that someone else is tending the important thing like cancer care or policing bad actors, etc.

To be fair never lived in a commune, only experienced tightly knit communities online. See story below of problem communities have (as far as i see it)

Totally agree that this is just one example and there may be many examples of well run ones.

https://www.advocate.com/exclusives/2021/9/23/trans-anarchists-alpacas-and-beauty-tenacious-unicorn-ranch

@evacide Not sure how sarcastic your tweet (skeets or toots are not even good, you're like children who think they can be cool, enough already) was but here goes.

Twitter was once a great debating ground, full of fun until the scoldy identitarian left weaponised safety to remove any dissenting voices. Then came Mastodon where all the loony techies went - a great place if you like fellow minded, mildly to wildly scoldy autistic techie people.

Threads took the 'I just want business conference chat, nothing unsafe, lets just pass the telling each other how WE are changing the world' sort of people, generally anxious but not autistic people.

Then came the great Bluesky who took the scientists and journalists who were tired of the Nazis on Twitter but comfortable with the 'chug piss' trans activists on Bluesky (you don't believe me but the boys and girls really seem to like it there https://bsky.app/search?q=%22chug+piss%22 ). There is a reason it's real name is Blueski...

Anyway back to your question - Different social media platforms seem to have developed distinct community cultures and approaches to debate. Mastodon often attracts tech-focused users who can be quite direct (thoughtless?) in their communication styles. Twitter's debate culture has evolved significantly over time. Threads appears to have cultivated a more business/professional networking environment, while Bluesky has drawn many academics and journalists looking for specific types of discourse.