Jude Nunga

@JudeNunga
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Hi , I'm a gardener, dog lover, living in Australia.
Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadMike JackminJan 27, 2023

@obrerx @actuallyautistic

The moral judgement is one thing, and the various practical consequences are another.

We all have to deal with practical consequences, and that's fine. What hurts us, what holds us back, are the moral judgements.

What I am saying is that you really can shrug off the moral judgements, but of course the practical things are always there. The practical consequences don't make us feel bad like the judgements do, they are not really the problem.

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Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadMike JackminJan 27, 2023

@obrerx @actuallyautistic

Yes, I can see I'm not making myself clear at all. It's a difficult point to explain.

Let me use another example. Suppose a teacher expected someone to be able to do a certain thing, and they couldn't do it, and the teacher judged them for it and said they were lazy.

We both understand that the judgement is not a good thing - not only is it harmful, it's also just wrong, and it's unfair to the person.

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Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadMike JackminJan 27, 2023

@obrerx @actuallyautistic

...and dealing with the opinions and judgements themselves.

If I go out camping and it rains, I deal with the practical consequences of the rain as I see fit, and then after that, it's like OK, it's raining now. It's not a bad thing imposed on me, it's nothing I'm accountable to. It's just the nature of the world I'm inhabiting.

You can deal with practical things all day long and not feel bad about them, or held back by them, or anything at all. It's just rain.

Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadstray autistic catJan 26, 2023
@mikejackmin @actuallyautistic
I do ignore those others, but that doesn't translate into having money for survival. Being autistic means the world of people and their emanations such as discordant, loud noise pollution, violently speeding vehicles, people with all of their misreading and misunderstanding and projections, the way city environments are designed, the competitive defeat-your-opponent-dog-eat-dog lifestyle that surrounds me, is so impacting on my hyper-perceptive neurons that I find it alienating. This isn't a choice that I can shrug off and just "ignore" or "switch off". It doesn't work that way.
Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadstray autistic catJan 26, 2023

@IzabelaKaramia

I looked it up!

syl·van
/ˈsilv(ə)n/
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adjectiveliterary
adjective: sylvan; adjective: silvan

consisting of or associated with woods; wooded.
"trees and contours all add to a sylvan setting"
pleasantly rural or pastoral.
"vistas of sylvan charm"

Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadstray autistic catJan 26, 2023

@IzabelaKaramia @actuallyautistic
It's so hard when I feel so calm and at peace with myself and the world when in a forest of conifers, but when around people I feel so much alienation. I feel alien to them, and they seem alien to me.

It's not something I can easily shake off. It's no small thing. It has a profound impact on me. I withdraw. But in natural environments, by myself or with my partner, I feel at home. I belong.

Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
stray autistic catJan 26, 2023

“The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people. But it does desperately need more peacemakers, healers, restorers, storytellers, and lovers of every kind. It needs people who live well in their places. It needs people of moral courage willing to join the fight to make the world habitable and humane. And these qualities have little to do with success as we have defined it.”

― David W. Orr, Ecological Literacy: Educating Our Children for a Sustainable World

I found a quote that agrees with my thoughts about Western capitalistic culture and concepts of success. We think all of this output, creativity, production, and accomplishing is the most important criteria of success, and we value people and give them status according to these metrics, but the fact is, this cultural value is killing the planet, and driving us to a point of becoming extinct from all of this "success".

As an an #IntenseWorld person, that is to say, #actuallyautistic, I find myself retreating and withdrawing from feeling alienated from the world of people and all of their expectations and judgements, so at the moment I'm not exactly flourishing.

Which is why I absolutely love this quote I found. It's often misattributed to the Dalai Lama.

@actuallyautistic

Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadKevin DavyJan 27, 2023
@untemperedsteel @obrerx @mikejackmin @Kencf618033 @actuallyautistic
But the problem lies in being ourselves. The allistic world around us is filled with people and places that deny our natural way of appreciating, perceiving and interacting. To make our way within it, financially and even spiritually, means realising that we live on the raggedy edge between compromising too much of ourselves and not enough to survive. In neither circumstance are we being entirely ourselves.
Jude NungaJan 27, 2023
Show threadUntempered Steel 🇺🇦🇬🇱🇪🇺Jan 27, 2023
@Pathfinder @obrerx @mikejackmin @Kencf618033 @actuallyautistic I haven't worked in a few years, I don't honestly know what my future holds. I am socially isolated, I don't trust people easily. I don't think anything is "wrong" with me, but I am not fully compatible with mainstream society. Perhaps future tech or changed social attitudes may help us, I don't know. Love and kindness go a long way, but are lacking in the world.
Jude NungaJan 26, 2023
LHamiltonJan 26, 2023
@ladyscorcher Pandemic survival seems to me to be a bit different from cancer survival in that lately everything we do to continue surviving the pandemic appears suspect to the hordes who are trying to pretend the pandemic has fully vanished and that we're deluded in taking even basic precautions.