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Eugen Rochko"PSA: If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, close it now." https://medium.com/@iDemonix/paypal-is-still-one-of-the-worst-online-examples-of-customer-service-42f3c13f6cd0
I mean, too bad PayPal is like the only way to do business online using a bank account without a credit card
Julian W@Gargron I'm a writer online and I am constantly terrified of the day when they find out it's because I'm writing porn and go "oh well we don't like that, huh" and just delete it. Fuck PayPal.
noueP ʇueɹnɐl@Gargron not even sure it's really 100% possible
ancient piggo's acct@Gargron I also opened it in 17: but if there's literally no money on it, and it's linked to a debit card, it should be OK? Nothing they can gain by closing it
@Gargron still insane that such a company seems to be built around being dicks to their customers
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK@MightyPork @Gargron I think it is USA lawyers paranoia because in UK (maybe rest of EU?) someone <18 cannot be held liable for debts or for legal contracts terms; but as soon as they are 18 the usual contracts apply.
Like many British teenagers i got my first bank accounts at age 12/13, and used same banks well into my 20s. I didn't have to close my a/c and start again at 18 with "adults" bank account..
[MOVED] Christopher Webber@Gargron Yeah, too bad. Bitcoin definitely won't be it, but I hope we keep seeing experimentation with cryptocurrency, so that eventually we do have an internet-monies-for-the-people that has characteristics which are usable for everyday humans.
Masoud Abkenar
Stefanie Schulte@masoud @Gargron @cwebber GNU Taler is an interesting project! By the way, I interviewed GNU Taler developer Christian Grothoff a while ago. The interview was published by my employer, an association of cooperative banks and other cooperatives (unfortunately, the interview is only available in German): https://www.rwgv.de/newsroom/aus-den-fachbereichen/banken-online-zahlungen-kuenftig-open-source/
@stefanieschulte @masoud @Gargron GNU Taler is interesting. I haven't gotten to try it yet but it sounds promising.
I'm also keeping an eye on the Stellar consensus protocol (*very* interesting stuff... federated consensus!) and what the company Digital Bazaar is doing (full disclosure in that I contract with them, but not on this currently) on Web Payments stuff (Linked Data Signatures for web payment stuff basically). Reasons for optimism!
Abbie Normal@cwebber @stefanieschulte @masoud @Gargron
wow !
I didn't know about Linked data Signatures and I didn't know about Stellar !
@cwebber @Gargron @masoud Here is a set of slides about the GNU Taler project (in English), from a talk Christian Grothoff gave in Düsseldorf: http://grothoff.org/christian/fsfe2016.pdf
arxvis@Gargron don't you accept bank transfers?
Sem Schilder 
@Gargron nah, iDeal, Sofort, Direct Debit! All EU Stuff though! And there are VISA and MasterCard Debit Cards
whodknee@Gargron hopefully some sort of cryptocurrency will become mainstream.
Alex@Gargron And, actually, if you have been over 18 when you opened your PayPal account: Close it now, anyways.
toby@Gargron good job I don't use the account I made when I was 13 in my dad's name :S