Koz RossApr 18, 2017
Time to compile a Minetest server from source. On a BananaPi. ...this is gonna take a while. #justcppthings #justarmthings #sitaroundandwait
Show threadKlaus Jónsson Zimmermann
@koz relevant #xkcd https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/compiling.png
Apr 18, 2017 at 1:58amWeb
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@kzimmermann Like you wouldn't believe. That BPi is an active microserver, which means I can only commit *one* core. One *A20* core. Yeah...
Show thread@[email protected]Apr 18, 2017
@koz the !BananaPi has a dual core cpu, hasn't it? :-)
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@mcscx @koz The BananaPi is nice! Have you tried RaspberryPi?
Show thread@[email protected]Apr 18, 2017
@stitchxd I've 4 !BananaPi _s and I love them (event though there are newer ARM boards now). I also have a !RasPi 2 and an #Odroid C2 @koz
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@mcscx @koz I got 2 RPi3's and one is my PBX, the other is my VPN/NAS. :D Awesome arm11 quad core's too.
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx I'm considering picking up an *eight*-core ARM device to use for some of my research code (core-heavy, but low RAM use).
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@koz @mcscx Nice!
Show thread@[email protected]Apr 18, 2017
@koz it would be interesting whether an 8-core ARM computer (Odroid) is actually faster than an Intel quadcore N3150 celeron board @stitchxd
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@mcscx @koz Why not something like an Intel NUC? Or something like it?
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx Because x86 is a power-burning, planet-roasting mess. And it's expensive to buy into the bargain.
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@mcscx @stitchxd I'm pretty sure it'd depend *heavily* on workload and how well the compiler can utilize the hardware. Tricky question!
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx I think the BPi is better as a microserver. The fact it needs less blobware (or did when I got it) is also a plus. #libre
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@koz @mcscx What do you mean "Blobware"? Like Drivers?
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx Firmware or drivers that we don't have source code for, or can't change for some other reason (e.g. signing).
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@koz @mcscx Isn't the Pi Open source hardware? Wouldn't that include drivers....?
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx It's about as 'open source' as the average bit of openwashing. It couldn't even *boot* without blobware until recently.
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@koz @mcscx The bootloader for the pi has been open source for years now though.. So I don't really understand what you mean? Maybe I am confusing this with something else - can you cite the source for that statement?
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx This should explain it far better than I ever could: https://blog.rosenzweig.io/blobless-linux-on-the-pi.html
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@koz @mcscx Thanks for the information and understanding! Looks like a good read, so I'll put it on my todo list :D Most people on here just tell me i'm a fool for not using FOSS. (But to me, the pi is (Or maybe *was* after reading this document) FOSS.

Anyway - Thanks!! :D
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx The rabbit hole for this stuff goes *very* deep. The solution to not knowing is education, not criticism. Or so I think.
Show threadMitchellApr 18, 2017
@koz @mcscx well I like the sound of that!
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@stitchxd @mcscx Of some relevance also (though out-of-date now): https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers
Show threadKoz RossApr 18, 2017
@mcscx Yeah, it's your standard A20.
Show threadKlaus Jónsson ZimmermannApr 18, 2017
@koz oh I can believe it. I still use a netbook that runs a CPU on MHz. #backToTheNineties