Fascinating dynamic unfolding across Mastodon: instances are dividing into two ideological factions: safe speech, and free speech.

The safe speech instances are likely to start sharing domain-level blocklists (like Adblock but for speech) in the near future, to "curb harassment".

The free speech instances legitimately don't seem to care, and so far, have held much more interesting, substantive and intellectual conversations than the safe speech zones.

What can you expect from me? Free speech.

@wogan I see this as an internal dispute of the steadily shrinking English-language minority of Mastodon. Neither side of it has yet really processed the fact that they aren't still the majority, but anyone who wants a clear view of the situation *must* be aware of that fact.

@mattskala That's a good point, though there's a lot more to it than that.

The fediverse has been around sine Laconica (10-ish years), and it's only recently that there's a clash between the safe-space culture from the US, meeting the existing global free-speech culture, in the context of a foreign culture now dominating in user size.

Essentially, this is the new Wild West right now.

@wogan @mattskala @yahananxie I'm kind of glad that I'm not the only one who sees the US cultural influence in what's essentially a culture war over speech norms.

Something the Americans fail to realize is that much of the European segment already has hate speech laws that apply where our servers are operating and don't actually need the Americans to come tell us what we're allowed to say.

@frankiesaxx @wogan @yahananxie The Japanese case is interesting, especially for the current context. Last Fall I stayed in an APA Hotel in Tokyo - part of a major Japanese chain. Because nobody warned me. Here's some of the literature provided in my room. https://mstdn.io/media/jXOWosJmEx8GJqTFwEM https://mstdn.io/media/RiK0BTDmFXQkXXZY7qM https://mstdn.io/media/SBSW4MrcYh1X_9QnBuw https://mstdn.io/media/MnJ-LENQszoAmw9i1rs

@yahananxie @wogan @frankiesaxx Now, that's only one major hotel chain, and I think most Japanese consider it kind of weird. But they are able to remain in business while doing this. Nobody's being run out of town on a rail over it. And there's a nont-really-fringe ultranationalist political faction that supports that sort of thing.

Lolicon notwithstanding, US and Japanese culture have a lot of things in common.

@mattskala @yahananxie @frankiesaxx Shhhh Matt, don't be controversial

The whole "use marketing to correct history" thing is well under way here in South Africa, but I think we're learning that from the US

@mattskala @yahananxie @wogan Are you sure that isn't just left in the room by some weirdo? XD