Christina Hendricks@jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson It was this one: https://mastodon.social/users/jeroensmeets/updates/339754 The one where you said the "toot" button had been changed to "share" in the app.
Nate Angell@clhendricksbc @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @Dan_Blick @injenuity there's something to be said for having a unique generic verb for "tooting" so we can talk about such actions in wider discourse. That said, "toot" doesn't seem serious enough for the long term.
Dan Blickensderfer@xolotl @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity Yes. I love "Share" for this and I'm not sure who to credit, was that @katebowles?
@Dan_Blick @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity I like "share", but it doesn't specify the medium as does "tweet"
@xolotl @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity Good point. I like the way "Boost" seems to do that for its function (more than my thought for same, "Amplify," might).
@Dan_Blick @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity yet we do not always post to boost or amplify...maybe that's too specific
@xolotl @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity Right, I was thinking purely of the current implementation of "Re-Tweet" in Mastodon. That is, you can't retweet-with-quote in Mastodon. So, "Boost" really is kind of a single-use dodad right now. And the idea that its only function is to Amplify someone else is kind of elegant and rad. For me, the Mastodon workflow for things that get me has become Star > Boost > Reply with my own perspective.
@Dan_Blick @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity ah, ok...got it...I thought you were proposing boost/amplify to replace toot. What you say makes sense.
@xolotl @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity Right, no I think Toot (Share, Post, Gesticulate) is a critical (primary) function unto itself. Equally important (to me) tho, in all forms of social media-type platforms, is Amplifying the work/thoughts of others within/throughout my network
@xolotl @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity Related to this: I should probably figure out if/when I should cull the folks on replies/the thread (like this one); is it annoying that I don't? I know I and @clhendricksbc and I'm sure others have started to feel overwhelm in Notifications (and in general). And at the same time I want conversations to be inclusive and grow, of course, versus shrinking them...
Scott Leslie@Dan_Blick personally, the lengthy @ chains are not something I'm digging here (but I don't dig them on twitter either). A few, sure, but after 3 starts to be clutter for me
@sleslie Yes, and they seem to grow to obnoxiousness here faster. Do you manually trim them out in replies?
@Dan_Blick so far, yes. I don't think there's a hard and fast rule, but lengthier toot lengths will mean it's a problem more often.
@sleslie @Dan_Blick ye are getting long of toot
Kate@sleslie @Dan_Blick Because I follow you both I can still watch the exchange. I noticed that longer exchanges are happening here -- conversations over days. This seems to be a social affordance rather than how threading works. 500 chars is key.
Aside: longer exchanges just autocorrected to lingerie changes, which I now can't unsee.
@katebowles @sleslie HAHAHAHA re: autocorrect eye scarring. The more persistent, deeper, stickier conversations in Mastodon thing is totally real, yes, and 500 character-enabled.
@Dan_Blick @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @katebowles @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity ideally one could unsubscribe rather than cull
@xolotl do you mean drop yourself off a thread, somehow?
@Dan_Blick ya..."unsubscribe" is the wrong word, more like "unhook"
@xolotl <puts down drink, backs away slowly and quietly>
@Dan_Blick @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity @xolotl What I miss about boost-with-quote is the ability to knit two things together and point the mix at someone specific. The quoting is really annotating.
I realise that in Twitter this is how I weave between unconnected parts of my network. It's like social introduction.
@katebowles @jeroensmeets @ShorterPearson @cogdog @econproph @acroom @clhendricksbc @injenuity @xolotl Very much the same for me; boost-with-quote is very much a much-needed re-mixing/synthesizing function. Love the "knit together" metaphor for this too. Quotes as annotation (and I think we really lost something when we could no longer manually RT and hack together "the mix" and send it on.
@Dan_Blick but just like with twitter, conventions and norms will emerge if we stick with it long enough. I keep trying to remind folks - twitter has had 8 years head start, don't expect perfection in a few weeks
@sleslie That's a great point and I especially like the sort of empowered feeling I have (here, not at all with Twitter) for all of us to shape those norms and conventions (and UX elements) as we go forward (if it/we stick around, as you say). As an aside, did you ever see a Twitter developer, even 8 years ago, ban someone, smite them with great and public fury? That's some powerful community shit, right there (above and beyond my ability to re-make the UX in my own image, or in my own instance)
@Dan_Blick I used twitter long enough that I do actual recall influencing it (hashtags we're a community invention, as we're @ replies) - but it's been a long time since that was a thing. I do hope mastodon/gnu social offer even more in this regards.
@sleslie Yes. I came to Twitter very late (for me, as a tech adopter), like 2010, maybe out of a misplaced skepticism, I think. It's impossible for me not to feel hopeful while Whatever Open Social Platform Things are in this stage of messy creation and norming--all hinging on us being (t)here in numbers. As I said the other day, even if Mastodon blows up tonight, this will have been a great set of world-making though experiments/exercises.