mykola 🙃🌎🤘Apr 16, 2017

First the queers and furries build a space where they can be themselves.

Then the infosec folks find that it fits well with their values.

Then the communists flock to the first real alternative to capitalist monopoly on shortform burst communication.

Then the artists come to find new walls to paint and nobody to tell them no.

The intellectuals, the chroniclers, the priests and the prophets, singly and in droves.

Slowly, it builds. It's neat to build an oral history from inception. #mastodon

Show threadjmz🦀(CARCIFIED)Apr 17, 2017
@mykola in terms of oral history, I think the radical leftists & communists showed up way before infosec twitter, who still seem like newborn mastodon calves from my perspective. There was a lot of discourse (relative to crowd size :B) around Castro's death & funeral. Variations on 'Gay furry communist twitter' were the tagline for a bit.
Show threadinmysocks Of Doom, Naked KSCApr 17, 2017
@paralithode @mykola Yes, I think that the infosec people were the third group. There were some complaints about the conversations moving in that direction when they showed up.
Show threadjmz🦀(CARCIFIED)
@inmysocks @mykola and you know, reflecting on it, I think e.g @katebowles & @clhendricksbc & @ShorterPearson (who I hope won't mind me characterising them as intellectuals :) ) were around exploring for a good while before the 'infosec invasion', too.
Apr 17, 2017 at 11:35amWeb
Show threadmykola 🙃🌎🤘Apr 17, 2017
@paralithode @inmysocks @katebowles @clhendricksbc @ShorterPearson so any historical narrative is necessarily reductive. There's also huge overlap between referenced groups. But I appreciate the clarifications!
Show threadinmysocks Of Doom, Naked KSCApr 17, 2017
@mykola @paralithode @katebowles @clhendricksbc @ShorterPearson when the history of mastodon is written it will be a jumbled confusion of contradictions.
Show threadjmz🦀(CARCIFIED)Apr 17, 2017
@inmysocks @ShorterPearson @clhendricksbc @katebowles @mykola we can only hope!!
Show threadKateApr 17, 2017

@paralithode @mykola @clhendricksbc @ShorterPearson @inmysocks I'm seeing a lot of effort to nail the essence of mastodon following this sudden growth. To me it's like defining "Australia" (which also happens often) by caricaturing some Australians.

What I see here is constantly changing. The consistent element is effort. People are working at this.

Show threadKateApr 17, 2017
@paralithode @ShorterPearson @clhendricksbc @mykola @inmysocks We came in as part of a sudden "academic invasion", skewed to edtech. We followed @14prinsp and found ourselves here, quite early.
Show threadLaura Ritchie 🌸Apr 17, 2017

@katebowles @14prinsp @inmysocks @mykola @clhendricksbc @ShorterPearson @paralithode Wednesday or Thursday 23rd/24th of November I joined that academic bunch.

It wasn't until someone told me, then I realised I was part of the 'others'. It didn't bother me to be an outlier, but I suppose for some groups/affinities, being pegged as an outsider would be enough to push them away. worth thinking about maybe?

Show threadinmysocks Of Doom, Naked KSCApr 17, 2017

@lauraritchie @paralithode @ShorterPearson @clhendricksbc @mykola @14prinsp @katebowles knowing that you are coming into an established space is important. Many new people come in and say that they are here to create a space and make the rules and completely ignore the culture that already exists.

I guess it shouldn't be 'other' so much 'other' and 'new'

Show threadLaura Ritchie 🌸Apr 17, 2017

@inmysocks I had genuinely never considered that someone would want to do that.

I do think the space is/will be ever evolving as parameters/users/numbers change and discussions evolve. I completely agree that a sensitivity to others & respect is needed. Like entering a house as a guest- hopefully welcome is met with gratitude. @katebowles @14prinsp @mykola @clhendricksbc @ShorterPearson @paralithode

Show threadinmysocks Of Doom, Naked KSCApr 17, 2017
@lauraritchie @paralithode @ShorterPearson @clhendricksbc @mykola @14prinsp @katebowles I think that for groups that are used to being marginalised it is more of a concern. Or we are just really tribal here, that is also a very real possibility.
Show threadChristina HendricksApr 18, 2017
@inmysocks @katebowles @14prinsp @mykola @ShorterPearson @paralithode @lauraritchie I remember being very concerned back in November or so about stumbling into a space where there were already interesting conversations happening and I didn't want to barge in and act like it should all change for us newcomers. For awhile I wondered if I should avoid tooting on public TL so as to preserve that space for existent communities.
Show threadKateApr 18, 2017
@clhendricksbc @lauraritchie @paralithode @ShorterPearson @mykola @14prinsp @inmysocks I don't share on the public TL for that reason. I feel I'm staying politely out of the way.
Show threadKateApr 18, 2017
@inmysocks @14prinsp @mykola @ShorterPearson @paralithode @lauraritchie @clhendricksbc But I'm also so glad for serendipitous discovery. @paralithode has become part of my day. And @dadegroot's photographs.
Show threadinmysocks Of Doom, Naked KSCApr 18, 2017
@katebowles @14prinsp @mykola @ShorterPearson @paralithode @lauraritchie @clhendricksbc I have been suggesting that people do post on the public timeline or it gets boring. I am just saying that there were some people who were being jerks when doing it.
Show threadLaura Ritchie 🌸Apr 18, 2017

@inmysocks I don't really post on the public timeline either-
it's funny, as a very open educator I come with a veiled shyness - kind of quiet reaction to the blustery-ness of Twitter

People demanding things change to suit them sounds decidedly difficult, although it is possible that good suggestions are made, & that is another thing... as my grandma says '*I want* never gets' @clhendricksbc @paralithode @ShorterPearson @mykola @14prinsp @katebowles

Show threadChristina HendricksApr 19, 2017
@inmysocks @lauraritchie @paralithode @ShorterPearson @mykola @14prinsp @katebowles I agree--avoid boring; meet new people; don't expect everyone to change to fit your desires. And do some laughing together. Sounds like my masto experience so far. I'm sorry to hear some have been jerks though.
Show threadinmysocks Of Doom, Naked KSCApr 18, 2017
@clhendricksbc @lauraritchie @paralithode @ShorterPearson @mykola @14prinsp @katebowles It isn't that you shouldn't post on the public timeline or anything like that, but there are/were people who came in and demanded that the space be changed to fit what they expected. There is nothing wrong with it changing, the problem was people comping in and demanding or assuming that the space would change to fix them.
Show threadChristina HendricksApr 18, 2017
@inmysocks @katebowles @14prinsp @mykola @ShorterPearson @paralithode @lauraritchie I decided to go ahead and toot publicly (I still can't help but chuckle when I say that...sorry) and just be mindful. I'm so glad I did because I ended up meeting new and interesting people I would not likely have done otherwise--like @paralithode!