Danyl StrypeIt's really weird trying to convince the #Wikipedia #deletionist that #Mastodon users can follow #GS users and vice-versa.
Rysiekúr (old account)@strypey what the actual... link pls?
Spacedragon @rysiek Seems to be this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mastodon_(software)#OStatus_federation
@rysiek The argument literally boils down to "We're not going to trust the developer who built the thing, or the source code that enables the thing, but rather we'll wait for secondary sources to verify what the primary source said."
Truth by consensus? No wonder people are losing faith in Wikipedia :joy:
Eugen Rochko@strypey Is it a wikipedia mod or some vandal?
Les Orchard@strypey Read some of the Talk section on there - and it's also weird to demand "not hobbyist blogs" when the whole thing is run by hobbyists
Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]@strypey I've heard about Wikipedia's edit wars. Hopefully, some wiki editor who knows something about the topic will restrain the #deletionist. Otherwise, the article will soon be gone (for reasons of lack of notability, lack of 3rd party sources, or some other excuse).
"You do you" is Eu-gen-ics.@strypey A technical spec explicitly stating such would be the thing here. Otherwise you're just citing "original research".
Lyskar@strypey Wikipedia tends to value its own culture higher than the idea of actually getting the facts. It's a lost cause to try to convince them of anything.
Doc Edward Morbius ❌@strypey Wikipedia disputes are almost always over /references/ rather than /arguments/. Don't try to /convince/, but find /acceptable sources/ backing claims. There are some cases where things devolve further, but that's reasonably rare.
Look for a third-party source that says "Mastodon instances can share content with other open standards social networks including GNU Social, OStatus..." etc. Mashable, Vox, Forbes, Ars Technica, Business Insider. Better, a half-dozen or so.
@strypey It's not the claims, per se, but the /sourcing/ of the claims that matter.
E.g., go back to the original edits of the Jarl Mohn article, NPR's current president. I created that when I realised there wasn't one, and immediately got a bunch of "not good enough" responses. So I made it good enough. If that means four cites establishing that he is in fact the fucking president of NPR, so be it.
Especially: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jarl_Mohn&oldid=650132220
@strypey The Opensource.org article is probably a good one to try:
https://opensource.com/article/17/4/guide-to-mastodon
https://opensource.com/article/17/4/guide-to-mastodon