GUFFO ☣️Apr 4, 2017
Gar
Hot take: closing registrations on this instance will have been the secret sauce needed to make federation really take off, and others should follow pattern. Lots of instances with limited registration numbers is a good thing for now.
Apr 4, 2017 at 5:37pmWeb
Show threadjeremy kleimanApr 4, 2017
@Gar they're called hot toots here, thanks
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@jeremykleiman OMG
Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017

@Gar @jeremykleiman

Hot Take <--> Hot Tusk

imo

Show threadDavidApr 4, 2017
@Gar yes, if only was very easy to spin up your own instance. Sadly, it isn’t.
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@david I don't know that spinning up your very own is necessarily needed. It's nice yes but for the majority of casual tooters if there was just a generic pool of servers to pick from, and if that were the norm, it just might work.
Show threadDavidApr 4, 2017
@Gar I have seeing servers come up and sunrise, and close door at sunset. If you are to be serious (and pedantic, and I am) with what you type, you are better off running your own. Hopefully Mastodon installation will get better.
Show threadSneaking MissionApr 4, 2017
@Gar I'm not 100% familiar with how federation works here, but is there a good way of make another instance my primary account? If I decide to use another instance how can I continue to see interactions made on the account here other than asking people to follow the new account instead?
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017

@SneakyMission It's akin to changing your email address currently, unfortch.

My advice is do it sooner than later, or wait and hope they later add some sort of identity management?

I am on vacation this week otherwise I'd be spinning up a new instance myself to see how easy it is / how much it'll cost me.

Show threadSneaking MissionApr 4, 2017
@Gar Ah, ok. Yeah that kind of sucks. Not sure how to tell which one is the "right" instance to set up shop in permanently. I have my social from several months ago and just created an .xyz account, but not sure I can tell if one is better than the other or how I could choose. Maybe setting up a personal instance is the only way to really control that but then I'm stuck into maintaining/paying for it forever. No really good solution any way from what I can tell.
Show threadSneaking MissionApr 4, 2017
@Gar gar plz fix it
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@SneakyMission Well if you're willing to wait I can 75% guarantee at this point there will be a danger.computer shard next week?
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@SneakyMission no wait boathole.com omg I've been WAITING for an excuse to use that domain.
Show threadJohnApr 4, 2017
@Gar Also, it means that we can have more community-specific instances and leave the poor furries alone.
Show threadJeezy PeepsApr 4, 2017

@semanticist @Gar i like the weird overlap i have on mine between queer,furry and tech communities

then again i am a giant masochist

Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017
@Gar I totally wanna set up a yostodon but idk it looks hard to do so meh
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@rotor I'm already configuring s3 and smtp in preparation, the heroku approach looks pretty clean.
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@rotor also see related replies to this with Sneaky about my need to use boathole.com for SOMETHING
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@rotor my biggest problem is I have no patience and am about 3 hours away from spring break, no computer till next monday. I must not get sucked into this right now.
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@rotor I hate being a single point of failure so once it's set up i'll be looking for someone to add access to on heroku be careful what u wish for _~_~_~~_
Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017
@Gar man I'm busy with other projects, if I can't apt-get install this in under an hour I have no time for it.
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017

@rotor one button deploy to heroku*

*(after you set up dns, s3, and smtp so you can fill in all the correct config items)

Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017
@Gar why would I pay for heroku's computers when I have a perfectly good computer at home
Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017
@Gar all it does is sit there all damn day, it might as well use one of it's many cores to federate a toot or two
Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017
@Gar why does it need email that seems like it should be an optional thing
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@rotor it is optional
Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017
@Gar so if it's optional why are you doing it
Show threadGarApr 4, 2017
@rotor but, like if you want open registrations people need to get their confirmation to sign up or whatnot
Show threadrotorApr 4, 2017

@Gar

hmmmmmm

ok i guess that's a good reason

Show threadSneaking MissionApr 5, 2017
@Gar @rotor sneaky.zone, or sneaky.tokyo?
Show threadGarApr 5, 2017
@SneakyMission @rotor zone is such a good tld
Show threadtestaccountplsignoreApr 5, 2017
@Gar I somewhat disagree. It seems to me that it doesn't make sense to have tons of different instances that serve the same purpose. What we need are for instances that serve a specific purpose to pop up over time. What I think would help the federation AND growth would be a way for people to migrate accounts across instances. I think that Motoma on Github said it best: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/177#issuecomment-291550258
Show threadHallå KittehApr 6, 2017
@gar Yeah, that's what Evan did with identi.ca when he switched it from #StatusNet (née laconi.ca, now #GNUSocial ) to pump.io. The switch has been debated hotly, but I think it's clear that the closing registrations part had the intended effect on the pump.io world.
Show threadNobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]Apr 6, 2017
I would say it partially worked. Identica started with such a huge number of users that I doubt any other instance is even close. When the #bifurcation happened, many people stopped using their early pump.io accounts and went back to ica. But the imbalance can't get worse because no registrations allowed there.
Show threadAlessio Biancalana 💻Apr 6, 2017
@Gar I agree. Diaspora at its time was seen as a facebook clone, this is the chance to show that decentralization is definitely a thing