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This is why @pluralistic is always preaching about #DRM-free digital media and software. Sony is deleting over 500 movies customers paid for through the PlayStation Store because they don’t want to renew their license with Studio Canal. #enshittification

David Ginn 12h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic I've been waiting for this to happen somewhere. I guess we're finally here. Sign of things to come?

Ray McCarthy 11h ago

@david @chrisoliver @pluralistic
This has happened on other platforms.

David Ginn 11h ago

@raymaccarthy @chrisoliver @pluralistic I'm aware of some closing and taking the content with them - just haven't heard of one deciding not to renew a licence. I guess this is why I have been slowly moving away from these kind of platforms. Their practices are repellent.

Haaukke 12h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic "Thank you" Well, nice way to finish it.

Chris Oliver 10h ago

@blaubeer @pluralistic also “play has no limits” but I guess movies do…

fabriziob 12h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic Gotta love GOG.

chemlon 12h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic Play has limits

@chrisoliver
I laughed out loud at "PLAY HAS NO LIMITS" at the bottom of the announcement. Seems like play has at least one limit.
@pluralistic

Escape Velocity 4h ago

@kyle90
No limit to how much they play with your money
@chrisoliver @pluralistic

@chrisoliver @pluralistic "Play has no limits"

Disisdeguey🍉🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸12h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic I mean, it's like they want people to go Luffy (do it)

@chrisoliver @pluralistic Unfortunately, Sony have form for doing this. https://www.pcmag.com/news/playstation-owners-have-until-the-end-of-the-month-to-watch-their-purchased

This was in 2023, but with Discovery content.

Buy the blu-ray, people.

SkyBlitz 9h ago

@gavin57 @chrisoliver @pluralistic Some blu-ray also have those DRM crap in them.

So buy the blueray and hack a digital copy to be sure they don't stole from you.

@skyblitz @chrisoliver @pluralistic MakeMKV FTW

ChefExperte 11h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic It should be illegal for companies to call it buying when it's clearly just a "rent-until-we-stop-caring"

Marijke Luttekes 11h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic I love that saying that if buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing.

JustDude 🙋🏻‍♂️🫶🏼🕊️10h ago

@mahryekuh @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic The Thank you at the end sounds like an insult, what a nerve they have to do this

Marijke Luttekes 10h ago

@justdude @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic NGL but that thank you would send me.

TheNovemberFella ✊🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀10h ago

@mahryekuh @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic 👍💯👍 Truth

Rupert Reynolds 10h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic We could use some kind of system where ownership of a movie sold (to own) is registered, and if one company turns evil or goes bust, other members of the scheme make sure it is still available to the buyer.

But it would be *huge*, and probably prone to errors.

Chris Oliver 10h ago

@RupertReynolds @chefx @pluralistic we need laws that allow consumers to transfer all their DRM-laden digital media from one platform to another and makes digital purchases irrevocable.

ChefExperte 9h ago

@RupertReynolds @chrisoliver @pluralistic The simplest solution is having items physically, and for digital goods without copy-protection or at least copy protection that does not need an online service.
For example some Blu-Ray players have expiring licenses and at some point will stop playing Blu-Rays until you update the license. This is not acceptable.
Regular DVDs are offline only, which is why I am buying them. Only downside is terrible resolution 💀

Rupert Reynolds 9h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic I grew up with 405 lines, then 625 lines PAL. A well-made DVD is fine for me and I buy the ones I really want to keep, and rip them for a backup in case the disc dies. Same for a lot of music.

But I think the streams need the same clear concepts of rental and ownership--progress is when things get better for people, not when they get worse.

Raymond Russell 10h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

They will have it all buried in the EULA that you have to sign/click.

It would be nice if someone had the time and money to take them to court to challenge the EULA. Just because something is written in a contract doesn't make it legal/fair or binding.

Svavar the Neurospicy 10h ago

@raymierussell @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

California has a law against this kind of thing.

https://techinsights.linklaters.com/post/102jpi5/californias-ab-2426-game-changer-for-video-game-and-digital-media-purchases

California's AB 2426: Game changer for video game and digital media purchases?

Effective 1st January 2025, a new law in California (AB 2426) will change how digital games and other digital goods, including movies, music and e-books...

Passle

Raymond Russell 10h ago

@svavar @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

I am not sure that this is really going to solve the problem. Just being slightly more transparent about an industry practise that should really shouldn't exist is a bit meh.

Full disclosure.
I don't buy digital movies, tv etc.
Or subscribe to pay streamers.
I use legit free with ads streamers (luckily the UK has a lot of broadcasters with this type of service) and buy physical media if possible for the content I want.

Svavar the Neurospicy 10h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

This is turbo annoying when it comes to physical devices that need an app to be useful.

Lots of devices are being bricked because the vendor can’t be arsed to keep the servers running or provide an offline mode.

ChefExperte 9h ago

@svavar @chrisoliver @pluralistic Yess! So annoying! Few years ago older people here in Germany always made jokes like "I'm sure there's an app for that now" whenever there was a problem, and now this has become sad reality...

SkyBlitz 9h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic won't be made illegal we've seen in stop killing gamt that the bribe of all governement is deep.

So if buying is not owning ... Downloading is not stealing.

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

“Play has no limit”

RobJLow 11h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic That 'play has no limits' tag is just a wee bit ironic, eh?

@chrisoliver @pluralistic The worst DRM experience that I've had was with ITunes. I was an early adopter and had purchased tons of music with DRM. When Apple finally switched, I was told that it would cost me $500 to convert my library. Haven't purchased DRM'd since, and I've kept anything important to me in text files. It's not just that proprietary formats are wrong from a political perspective -- you're also very likely to outlive them.

C.S.Strowbridge 11h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

Physical media is the only way to go.

Or sailing the seven seas.

Chris Oliver 10h ago

@csstrowbridge @pluralistic sadly, but consumers should be giving the right to have their digital purchases be irrevocable and to freely move digital media between platforms.

Damon L. Wakes 11h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic Did they seriously put "PLAY HAS NO LIMITS" right under the announcement that you can no longer play your purchased movies due to the limits of a licensing arrangement?

JustDude 🙋🏻‍♂️🫶🏼🕊️10h ago

@DamonWakes @chrisoliver @pluralistic They PLAY with your money….and that has no limits

TheNovemberFella ✊🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀10h ago

@DamonWakes @chrisoliver @pluralistic 👍

Maddad ☑️10h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

Just watch movies for free...
There are dozens of free movie sites online, both legal, and a little bit legal.

Use a VPN and your good to go.

M.O.O.N that spells Tom Cullen 10h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic oof

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

And they wonder why piracy by average people is rampant in the world.....

Y'arrrr!

michael 10h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic DRM: PAY has no limits

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

I once, just once, looked into Spotify's collection, specifically my favourite artist. Turned out they had a couple of albums from their oeuvre, some of the popular ones from just one of their labels. That settled it for me. #kthxbye :smily:

@chrisoliver @pluralistic 어처구니없네

disorderlyf 10h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic How did this go last time they did this?

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RealGene ☣️10h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

"Profit has no limits"

Chris Oliver 10h ago

@RealGene @pluralistic cutting costs has no limits. They’re just trying to keep their business “sustainable” /s

VANTABlack 9h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic When it comes to games I like Itch.io because it is DRM free as well as gives more freedom to Devs and Players on how much they want to spend or how much they want to give to Itch.io

Nova Rivera 9h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic sadly a lot of BlueRay players have remote wipe functionality, they can be rendered useless by the authorization server after you bought it. A bunch of BluRays require online DRM as well.

oscarfalcon 9h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

Hey, easy fix: Give The Money BACK!

@oscarfalcon Right? It'd be so clear-cut and simple solution. "You bought a product and we sadly can't provide it any more due to our whatever, so sorry, here's the money you spent back in our store credits, come watch something else", and they wouldn't even need to spend any Actual Moneys on this.

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

Kagan MacTane (he/him)9h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic If purchase is not ownership, then piracy cannot be theft. 🏴‍☠️

Karna Samarium 9h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVXCr6upWUo

Do What You Want, Cause A Pirate Is Free... You Are A Pirate

YouTube

Roberto Plà 9h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

"Pay has no limits"

an actual bus 9h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

We're limiting your play.

Thank you,

PlayStation Store

PLAY HAS NO LIMITS

Barbara Sliwinska 8h ago

@chrisoliver they should change their ad phrase 'PLAY HAS NO LIMITS' cause it seems ridiculous
@pluralistic

Cesare Pautasso 8h ago

@chrisoliver thank you for sharing yet another example of the

"DRM rug pull"

dark pattern.

https://leanpub.com/unethical-software-engineering/

Unethical Software Engineering

Unethical Software Engineering exposes how to manipulate, exploit, and profit at users' expense. From covert email trackers and fake reviewers to cybersquatters and bot pretenders, this eye-opening book collects 22 dark patterns eroding accountability, trust, truth, transparency and privacy.

GhostOnTheHalfShell 8h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

They pulled this crap last year or 2024 too.

When buying isn’t owning…

DopeGhoti 8h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic

The audacity to use the "Play has no limits" footer on the notification that the duration of your "purchase" is limited to 2026-09-01.

AzureArmageddon 8h ago

@chrisoliver @pluralistic "PLAY HAS NO LIMITS" right under a retroactive limitation on playing your purchased movies...