Chris Oliver19h ago
This is why @pluralistic is always preaching about #DRM-free digital media and software. Sony is deleting over 500 movies customers paid for through the PlayStation Store because they don’t want to renew their license with Studio Canal. #enshittification
Show threadChefExperte
@chrisoliver @pluralistic It should be illegal for companies to call it buying when it's clearly just a "rent-until-we-stop-caring"
Jun 27 at 2:46pmWeb
Show threadMarijke Luttekes18h ago
@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic I love that saying that if buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing.
Show threadJustDude 🙋🏻‍♂️🫶🏼🕊️17h ago
@mahryekuh @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic The Thank you at the end sounds like an insult, what a nerve they have to do this
Show threadMarijke Luttekes17h ago
@justdude @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic NGL but that thank you would send me.
Show threadTheNovemberFella ✊🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀17h ago
@mahryekuh @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic 👍💯👍 Truth
Show threadRupert Reynolds17h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic We could use some kind of system where ownership of a movie sold (to own) is registered, and if one company turns evil or goes bust, other members of the scheme make sure it is still available to the buyer.

But it would be *huge*, and probably prone to errors.

Show threadChris Oliver17h ago
@RupertReynolds @chefx @pluralistic we need laws that allow consumers to transfer all their DRM-laden digital media from one platform to another and makes digital purchases irrevocable.
Show threadChefExperte16h ago
@RupertReynolds @chrisoliver @pluralistic The simplest solution is having items physically, and for digital goods without copy-protection or at least copy protection that does not need an online service.
For example some Blu-Ray players have expiring licenses and at some point will stop playing Blu-Rays until you update the license. This is not acceptable.
Regular DVDs are offline only, which is why I am buying them. Only downside is terrible resolution 💀
Show threadRupert Reynolds16h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic I grew up with 405 lines, then 625 lines PAL. A well-made DVD is fine for me and I buy the ones I really want to keep, and rip them for a backup in case the disc dies. Same for a lot of music.

But I think the streams need the same clear concepts of rental and ownership--progress is when things get better for people, not when they get worse.

Show threadRaymond Russell17h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

They will have it all buried in the EULA that you have to sign/click.

It would be nice if someone had the time and money to take them to court to challenge the EULA. Just because something is written in a contract doesn't make it legal/fair or binding.

Show threadSvavar the Neurospicy17h ago

@raymierussell @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

California has a law against this kind of thing.

https://techinsights.linklaters.com/post/102jpi5/californias-ab-2426-game-changer-for-video-game-and-digital-media-purchases

California's AB 2426: Game changer for video game and digital media purchases?

Effective 1st January 2025, a new law in California (AB 2426) will change how digital games and other digital goods, including movies, music and e-books...

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Show threadRaymond Russell17h ago

@svavar @chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

I am not sure that this is really going to solve the problem. Just being slightly more transparent about an industry practise that should really shouldn't exist is a bit meh.

Full disclosure.
I don't buy digital movies, tv etc.
Or subscribe to pay streamers.
I use legit free with ads streamers (luckily the UK has a lot of broadcasters with this type of service) and buy physical media if possible for the content I want.

Show threadSvavar the Neurospicy17h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic

This is turbo annoying when it comes to physical devices that need an app to be useful.

Lots of devices are being bricked because the vendor can’t be arsed to keep the servers running or provide an offline mode.

Show threadChefExperte16h ago
@svavar @chrisoliver @pluralistic Yess! So annoying! Few years ago older people here in Germany always made jokes like "I'm sure there's an app for that now" whenever there was a problem, and now this has become sad reality...
Show threadSkyBlitz16h ago

@chefx @chrisoliver @pluralistic won't be made illegal we've seen in stop killing gamt that the bribe of all governement is deep.

So if buying is not owning ... Downloading is not stealing.