Ariadne Conill 🐰
this is wild: https://spur.us/blog/smart-tv-apps-residential-proxy-sdks
thanks to @dne for sharing it with me
this shit is why i do not ever configure network access on 'smart' appliances
Peter Bindels@ariadne Same.
Appliances can connect to my computer systems in my home, or not at all. And for some reason nobody makes them with an API for me to connect with, so I guess they're not getting a connection.
Klaus Frank@ariadne well at least you've plausible deniability for anything that relies upon IP logging...
Ity Kitty [unit X-69]@ariadne my TV does not need to have a computer in it, it only needs to be a big screen with speakers that has an HDMI cable plugged in. I do not want that computer in there, get it out (even if it is funny to scroll thru the software license listing and guess how their thing works. Seeing Mesa and Android components listed on the same TV is wild. Or seeing a random project I contributed to listed.)
Angela Scholder@ariadne This is why I never wanted a 'smart' TV, but why we just bought a 'big' monitor (32" might be debatable as big) when our old CRT wide-screen TV died.
As extra I needed a HDMI switch to select either the SatPVR or the Blu-ray player as source. And audio is going via the audio amplifier and speakers.
Currenly cameras are in the home network, but it's not something I'm happy with.
I need to work on the cabled network, and then there will be a separate IoT network.
nicole mikołajczyk@ariadne not the best reason because if you simply don’t install random shit on it you won’t end up sharing your network with scrapers and cybercriminals
hazelnot 
MacCruiskeen@ariadne Saying 'no' to 'smart' appliances also an option.
yak
Kraftwerk-Das Model Collapse@ariadne wow. I wonder how that's monetized in the end - for botnets?
David Gerard@davidgerard @ariadne oh wow, the future of hosting has arrived
DavidIt is used on huge parts to harvest training data for llms. This is huge problem for smaller hosters, some open source projects, openstreetmap etc because they crawl web sites at intense depth without even basic caching which wastes lots of resources, money and often makes the service inoperable for legitimate users.
I'm shocked that this is not mentioned in the report or the comments here, in my bubble I had various reports of this problem.
You can't block those IPs because there are so many and you would also block legitimate users. That is exactly why they are using them.
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Ox1de
Мя ��@Ox1de look at per-device traffic stats on your router, if it has this feature?
if TV is using a lot, when you don't actively stream something, it's almost definitely doing something bad
especially if traffic uploaded is close to traffic downloaded
normal clients send small requests, and download much bigger responses
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ferricoxide@ariadne @dne
Good to know, but I didn't see any links to a database of proxy-enabled apps? I mean, the only apps I have on my OLED are ones for the (major) streaming services I use (e.g., YouTube, Hulu, etc.). Be great to know if this included "the big guys" or if it's just the "free" apps.
Regardless, sounds like I need to move my TV onto my wifi's "guest" or IoT network segment.
Also makes me glad that I have my TV on a smart plug that cuts power to the TV at the end of a day of streaming.
Good to know, but I didn't see any links to a database of proxy-enabled apps? I mean, the only apps I have on my OLED are ones for the (major) streaming services I use (e.g., YouTube, Hulu, etc.). Be great to know if this included "the big guys" or if it's just the "free" apps.
Regardless, sounds like I need to move my TV onto my wifi's "guest" or IoT network segment.
Also makes me glad that I have my TV on a smart plug that cuts power to the TV at the end of a day of streaming.
🏳️🌈 Happy Pride-onphan! 🏳️⚧️@ariadne @dne https://www.samsung.com/us/business/commercial-tvs/all-commercial-tvs/
Obviously go for the non-smart variants of Commercial TVs. I got a 65" commercial TV and don't regret it one bit!
@ariadne @dne And pair it with a deGoogled Onn 4K TV box/stick:
https://reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/12rya0t/change_launcher_debloat_the_new_onn_4k_streaming/
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