Thomas Fuchs4d ago

Europe had at least 30 years to prepare for this (if I’m generous), really it’s more like 50+.

Politics, leaders and society failed.

Like in Austria (where I’m from) they’re not closing schools despite it reaching up to 40°C indoors because they don’t have any law for this case.

Torturing children and teachers instead of finally acknowledging that there’s an ongoing deadly emergency.

Pretending that everything is fine instead of finally acting to protect life.

A true boiling frog experiment.

Show threadBeggar Midas
@thomasfuchs It must not be that desperate if green activists are still deadset against carbon capture startups. Get back with us when your care for the environment finally exceeds your need to extract a pound of flesh from big oil.
Jun 24 at 9:11pmWeb
Show threadCohenTheBlue4d ago

@Beggarmidas @thomasfuchs Have you looked at any results of carbon capture technology other than forests EDIT: and algae farms?

No results worth mentioning, it's mostly greenwashing. Quantitatively, carbon capture doesn't make sense, at least not more than stopping deforestation and using algae + kelp.

Show threadmathew4d ago
@cohentheblue @Beggarmidas @thomasfuchs This article from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists talks about what would be needed for significant direct air carbon capture, and it's not good:
https://thebulletin.org/2023/12/direct-air-capture-an-expensive-dangerous-distraction-from-real-climate-solutions/
Direct air capture: An expensive, dangerous distraction from real climate solutions

Separating carbon dioxide from air, while technically straightforward, is outrageously expensive.

Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Show threadThe Liquid Schwartz4d ago

@Beggarmidas @thomasfuchs

Carbon capture is a kiloton solution to a gigaton problem. Seperating CO2 at PPB levels is thermodynamicly a wasted effort. The amount of energy used is proportional to the degree of seperation your attempting to accomplish. Not a linear relationship, a power law relationship.

Which is why the ...accounts... pumping it as a downstream solution are either deceived, AI scripts, paid liars, or some combination. Get back to us when you learn how exponents work.

All the money that used to be invested into the human slave trade has moved into the petroleum extraction industry. It's now a global extra-judicial cabal. They knew for decades now that humanities transition away from carbon based energy poses an existential threat that must be met with any means necessary. They haven't been idle those decades and they have the money to buy or destroy anyone or anything that stands in their way.

The global slide into fascim. The Trump reich. Ukraine. Brexit. The sundering of the economic liberal world order. All of these are downstream consequences of that defacto monopoly being threatened with non-existence.

Show threadBeggar Midas4d ago
@OvertonDoors @thomasfuchs It still must be part of the solution. There's no avoiding it unless you're willing to wait thousands of years for the situation to self stabilize. The first entries into that space were basically fraudsters looking to cash in. They took EVERYONE for a ride. That was 2007. This is now. There is a whole SLEW of very bright people who are NOT fraudsters looking into a LOT of different solutions now.
Stop hunting for someone to blame.
Start hunting for solutions.
Show threadBirk Marold4d ago
@Beggarmidas @OvertonDoors @thomasfuchs learn your physics bro...
Show threadBeggar Midas2d ago
@Birk_lab @OvertonDoors @thomasfuchs If that was directed at me, it's misplaced. I'm aware of the scale of the issue. Save your patronizing bullshit for the denialists.
Y'see. I know something BOTH of you don't. I knew the Kyoto accord was a farce. It didn't include a single fucking economist or civil engineer or energy sector expert or ANYONE to run feasibility calculations. It only included climatologists & environmental activists. Y'all shut out anyone capable of giving you a reality check.
Show threadBeggar Midas2d ago
@Birk_lab @OvertonDoors @thomasfuchs PS: This is me being as civil. You want to discuss particulars or have a counterpoint to make i'll leave the door open for it. But if you continue with this bullshit trying to bully or shame me into mindlessly agreeing with your knee jerk opinions...That civility will end. I'm not some uninformed yahoo. I've been closely monitoring the science now for thirty years. Hell, i helped GATHER some of the raw data. I do not appreciate the disrespect. Understood?
Show threadThe Liquid Schwartz1d ago

@Birk_lab @thomasfuchs

Go run backward through a field of dicks @Beggarmidas

Do we understand each other?

Then read your posts again. You lead with disrespect. You get disrespect. Your less than a chatbot untill you can muzzle the asshole. Seriously, nobody owes you shit. Your a sad old man who can't learn a lesson any 5 year old is capable of. Figure it out.

Show threadBeggar Midas19h ago
@OvertonDoors @Birk_lab @thomasfuchs No. I just bluntly stated facts. The only reason you consider them disrespectful is because it doesn't reconcile with what you want to believe. You chose to get heated over it. Which definitely indicates this is a YOU problem, not a ME problem. I get the read you're used to being the brightest person in the room. You most likely curate that since you obviously can't stand anything you say being challenged. I guess your kindness stops at my competency, eh?
Show threadBeggar Midas19h ago
@OvertonDoors @Birk_lab @thomasfuchs I'd speculate that you've parked your self esteem too close to your opinions. Causing you to conflate any disagreement as a personal attack. Maybe you should work on that.
Show threadThe Liquid Schwartz14h ago

Keep doubling down on asshole @Beggarmidas
never quit, it's your defining feature.

Here's your prize, now off you fuck!

Show threadThe Liquid Schwartz4d ago
@Beggarmidas @thomasfuchs the solution is simple. Depose the fossil fuels industry. It's lobbyists. It's boards of directors. It's financers. It's sovereign wealth. Burn it like the joker did that mountain of cash. It's heroine and your proposing a national methidone clinic initiative to "save" us from the cartels.
Show threadBeggar Midas3d ago
@OvertonDoors @thomasfuchs ...aaaand that line of thinking has sure been delivering returns, hasn't it? Yeah. You don't care about the environment, so cut your bullshit. What you care about is vengeance. WTG demonstrating cleanly why so many people view environmentalists as lacking credibility. Call us back when you can get your priorities straight. Or don't. There's enough politically non-aligned talent onboard work towards solutions now that it'll get addressed whether you're involved or not.
Show threadThe Liquid Schwartz3d ago

@thomasfuchs Someones angry about having their arguments cut off at the legs. Look @Beggarmidas calling me names dosn't change the physics involved, or the impossibility of your projects making any difference. I say -your project- because it's clear this is something you have a personal financial stake in.

Compared to net fossil fuel consumption rates its not even a rounding error in a years CO2 production. Neither are 100 similar project nor 1,000 of them. It's feasible as a syn gas feedstock source, nothing else. So you project your anger, ok, again not my damage. The solution to global warming is to stop burning fossil fuels. Cope with what is, or not.