Natasha 🇪🇺🇮🇪2d ago
From Dune and ... 🎯
Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)2d ago

@Natasha_Jay

This quote is why I hate the Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert prequels so much.

The original Dune series has a lot of references to the Butlerian Jihad as a reaction to people living mechanically structured lives that removed their essential humanity and allowed other humans to control them. The prequels made it about evil killer robots with no sensible motivations.

Show threadNoodlemaz2d ago
@david_chisnall @Natasha_Jay glad I didn't read them now..!
Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)2d ago

@noodlemaz @Natasha_Jay

I kept reading them because I thought that they must eventually get better and they were allegedly written from some of Frank’s notes. I didn’t finish his Butlerian Jihad series. I accidentally bought two copies of the conclusion (second hand, I didn’t give them money and encourage them) because it was so bad I completely erased it from my memory the first time I read it. It completely disregarded all of the hints about the ending that were in Chapter House and made the ending a terrible tie in with the stupidest of the books.

Show threadLeto Atréides 🪱🏜️🌈🦄👓🪶🐜2d ago
@david_chisnall @noodlemaz @Natasha_Jay Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson write together like they take a piss. It is perfunctory, they write a stories and try to include as many SciFi clichés/tropes, and clumsily tie it to Frank Herbert's work and notes, but there's no depth to them, no value, because they don't know/understand shit about world building or politics, nor do they cultivate deep knowledge of other culture than their own american point of view. Frank Herbert may have been a drunkard, a bad father and whatever else, but he had insight, he did extensive research and that enabled him to build a world and deep points of view and analysis within that world. Brian and Kevin are incapable of that :/
Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

@LetoOfTheDesert @noodlemaz @Natasha_Jay

When they originally announced them, there was a quote from Brian Herbert that Kevin J Anderson was the only person he felt could write something on that scale. I went and read several of his other books and they all had terrible endings. As in, the story just stops. Everything is resolved in a way that made you think ‘huh, nothing leading to this point really mattered’. And that was the person he thought could write the conclusion of the Dune series?

Jun 23 at 7:12pmWeb
Show threadLeto Atréides 🪱🏜️🌈🦄👓🪶🐜2d ago
@david_chisnall @noodlemaz @Natasha_Jay well it all ends in a mish mash of whatever deepshit, so it probably was the goal all along for them :D