To my northern neighbours suffering from the current heat wave.

I lived in approx 38C with 90% humidity for 20 years, and I have a few pieces of advice.

1. Don't do anything fast that you can do slow.
2. Umbrellas aren't just for rain. They work for sun, too.
3. Sweat is your friend. Drink lots of liquid, eat and drink things that trigger sweating.

4. Cold showers and baths trigger your body to warm up. Room temp showers work best - and don't bother drying off.

@Remittancegirl

Are you sure about those numbers? 38C with 90% humidity is 36.5C wet-bulb.

That is not survivable by a human and sweating does not cool one down at all in such a temperature. Also, according to Wikipedia, the highest recorded wet bulb temperature ever was 36.3C in UAE.

@vriesk Well, I lived in Ho Chi Minh City for two decades. It regularly hits that temperature and in the rainy season the humidity regularly hovers between 80-90

So, I don't know what you want me to say.

Will you get some extra satisfaction by thinking I'm lying to you while you fry?

@Remittancegirl No, I absolutely don't think you're lying or anything like that. 38C dry-bulb is definitely happening in many places, also the humid ones.

Also, your hot-weather advice is very sound and good.

Just that during the peak-temperature hours, the relative humidity is likely even lower than 80% even during the wettests months, as 38C with even 80% is 34.8C, still on the edge of survival for humans. Vietnam is not listed to ever get above 34C in this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature#Heat_waves_with_high_humidity

Wet-bulb temperature - Wikipedia

@vriesk Man, what is your problem? Doubling down even. Just stop embarassing yourself, please.

@Remittancegirl

@svenscholz Can we stop with this?

There is theory - and science - and then there's just living in thick, hot soup for 6 months a year.

And they're fundamentally different things. Which sounds annoying because theory should be absolutely the truth.

Lived experience just exceeds expectations. That's all I'm saying.

@vriesk

@Remittancegirl @svenscholz yeah, that's extreme.

BTW, do fans still help at those temperatures and humidities?

I'm always surprised how big of a difference sitting next to a fan makes in the somewhat less extreme 35C with low humidity, maybe even a bit better (but very localized) than just AC.

@vriesk
Yes, absolutely. They help evaporate sweat, even if just a little, even if they're not cooling you down directly.

I notice that fans really stop helping at about 40. But it never got that hot in Vietnam where I was. But when I was in Cordoba, which is very dry heat, I noticed that fans started to feel like a hair-dryer on hot at 40C. If anything, it made it feel worse.

@svenscholz

@Remittancegirl @vriesk @svenscholz

Fans still help at 40+ if you're wet, the problem is you dry off fast enough that things get right back to hair dryer. I think at a certain temperature, with the fan on you can't sweat fast enough to keep it cooling you down.

It's like hand dryers in bathrooms. The air in them is hot but they still feel cold until your hands dry off.

@gbargoud @Remittancegirl @vriesk @svenscholz then you need a plant sprayer to make yourself humid again.
Or a wet towel.
Then you don't need to sweat that much.

@fietsria @Remittancegirl @vriesk @svenscholz

Yeah, the point is that keeping yourself wet enough for the fan to help is something you have to actively think about at those temperatures

@gbargoud @fietsria @Remittancegirl @vriesk @svenscholz

Living in the American Southwest in the 90s, they began to put misting fans on restaurant patios. It made a 100*F (37.7C) day so much more bearable. Moisture and a fan could drop the ambient air temperature enough to make it comfortable.

They became available at reasonable prices for home use too. The simple systems are just an atomizing watering ring in front of a fan.

@MyWoolyMastadon @gbargoud @fietsria @Remittancegirl @vriesk @svenscholz
A year ago… I was looking at low tech cooling and besides smart building design (old school design), India had vetiver rolling shades for windows and doorways that you could either wet, or could buy a dripping device, that would help cool air as it came through, plus vetiver smells good. I wish someone would import those here. Loved the idea.
@Pomegranatepirate Very cool! Some of the old buildings in HCMC with clay tile roofs have a drip system that leaks little streams of water onto the hip of the roof. The evaporation works to pull the denser, cooler air in through the windows and doors on the bottom floor and convection pulls it up into the second floor. I don't know if it works, but it was very popular with the French. @MyWoolyMastadon @gbargoud @fietsria @vriesk @svenscholz

@Remittancegirl @Pomegranatepirate @MyWoolyMastadon @fietsria @vriesk @svenscholz

In Egypt, Nubian architecture tends to include at least one room that is a large dome with a small hole in the top for stack effect ventilation although that is for a dry heat not a wet heat: the number of days per year that rain comes through that hole is often in the single digits