To my northern neighbours suffering from the current heat wave.

I lived in approx 38C with 90% humidity for 20 years, and I have a few pieces of advice.

1. Don't do anything fast that you can do slow.
2. Umbrellas aren't just for rain. They work for sun, too.
3. Sweat is your friend. Drink lots of liquid, eat and drink things that trigger sweating.

4. Cold showers and baths trigger your body to warm up. Room temp showers work best - and don't bother drying off.

@Remittancegirl

Are you sure about those numbers? 38C with 90% humidity is 36.5C wet-bulb.

That is not survivable by a human and sweating does not cool one down at all in such a temperature. Also, according to Wikipedia, the highest recorded wet bulb temperature ever was 36.3C in UAE.

@vriesk Well, I lived in Ho Chi Minh City for two decades. It regularly hits that temperature and in the rainy season the humidity regularly hovers between 80-90

So, I don't know what you want me to say.

Will you get some extra satisfaction by thinking I'm lying to you while you fry?

@Remittancegirl No, I absolutely don't think you're lying or anything like that. 38C dry-bulb is definitely happening in many places, also the humid ones.

Also, your hot-weather advice is very sound and good.

Just that during the peak-temperature hours, the relative humidity is likely even lower than 80% even during the wettests months, as 38C with even 80% is 34.8C, still on the edge of survival for humans. Vietnam is not listed to ever get above 34C in this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature#Heat_waves_with_high_humidity

Wet-bulb temperature - Wikipedia

@vriesk Man, what is your problem? Doubling down even. Just stop embarassing yourself, please.

@Remittancegirl

@svenscholz Can we stop with this?

There is theory - and science - and then there's just living in thick, hot soup for 6 months a year.

And they're fundamentally different things. Which sounds annoying because theory should be absolutely the truth.

Lived experience just exceeds expectations. That's all I'm saying.

@vriesk

@Remittancegirl @svenscholz yeah, that's extreme.

BTW, do fans still help at those temperatures and humidities?

I'm always surprised how big of a difference sitting next to a fan makes in the somewhat less extreme 35C with low humidity, maybe even a bit better (but very localized) than just AC.

@vriesk Actually, I think the combination of AC and a fan is really quite important. Because the cool air tends to hover at floor level, and a fan helps move it around a bit. @svenscholz
@Remittancegirl @svenscholz yep, that makes sense. Some top-mounted AC units have this mode of pushing the air horizontally all over the ceiling, which then somewhat uniformly falls down and mixes well, and the effect is much better than just blowing it down (with the same unit).
@vriesk Yup. While it feels good at first to have the cold air blowing down on you, in the long run the whole room gets more comfortable if you have it blowing high across the ceiling and having a fan aimed at the floor to kick it back up and circulate the cold air once it falls. @svenscholz
@Remittancegirl @svenscholz Which makes me really wonder why on Earth the floor-mounted internal AC units are so popular in the US.
@vriesk I know, right? Do they not understand that hot air rises?@svenscholz
@Remittancegirl @svenscholz um, well, they do have this vibe of a country that knows everything better than anyone else, don’t they.
@vriesk @Remittancegirl @svenscholz lol, we're plenty stupid, but this one is easily understandable. Those vents get used for both heat and cooling. Having them in the floor for heat makes sense and we've traditionally been more of a heating country (times, they are a changing). In the South, ceiling fans are ubiquitous.

@Secret_Squirrel @Remittancegirl @svenscholz my experience comes mostly from (north) California, Florida, and Louisiana, so I don't know.

They all look more like a lazy construction work than anything (mounting a non-split unit on the top of the window is harder than just ripping a hole under said window and putting the thing on the floor).

@vriesk @Remittancegirl @svenscholz Ah, those. Yeah, daft. Cheap construction yields crap results

@Remittancegirl @vriesk @svenscholz

You find those floor vents in older houses built before AC was a thing. They are stupid. They make it impossible to put your furniture where you want it. They collect dust like crazy too.

Even after AC was a thing aome builders kept putting them in the floor because it was cheaper than adding enough duct work to put them in the ceilings. It really seems to be a regional problem in the US.

@vriesk @Remittancegirl @svenscholz I think the floor vents in southern homes are a combination of a hold-over of older houses that had a heater for the winter but relied on open windows and air flow in summer, people bringing northern building practices south without considering the local climate (more than half the US is in climates where heating is more important than cooling), and slow cultural change where floor vents and ceiling fans are seen as normal or classic and upper wall vents are seen as unsightly.

Also, many older houses built with floor vents are poorly insulated, and at least in Florida, many people *suffer* when it gets to 50-55 F (10-12C).

@Robotistry @vriesk @Remittancegirl @svenscholz

My folks had their house rebuilt after a tornado had hit it. They lived in the south. They had to fight with the builder to put R35 insulation in the attic. The damn man insisted it didn't get cold enough for it without realizing you want it as well for keeping a house cooler when running AC. It was also a fight for decent insulation in the walls.

I got up there when it was finished and added another layer and made sure the soffits were open.

@vriesk @Remittancegirl @svenscholz Sadly, I think those are mostly "popular" because people's landlords won't let them use the more efficient window units