Jason Lefkowitz"ooooof" followed by like ten million "f"s
aburtch@jalefkowit Who the hell can afford that!?
@aburtch My guess is that this price is nowhere near what Valve originally thought they would be able to bring this product to market for. Because they probably would not have gone forward if this was the price they expected to have to charge for it
@jalefkowit I know nothing about this area, but maybe data centers driving up hardware prices made it more expensive than expected?
eclexic@aburtch @jalefkowit this is exactly what happened.
Luna / Miika ☭ 
@aburtch @jalefkowit Yes of course AI datacenters bump up memory price of both RAM, SSDs and even HDDs.
Madagascar_SkyFrom a YouTube interviewer interviewing a valve engineer
'Every month they would tell us a price. If we said anything other than Yes, we would never hear from them again'
Lou.@aburtch @jalefkowit that's the 2TB + controller price. Controller by itself is a hundred bucks, it add 70 to the bundle. Going from 512GB to 2TB add two faceplate (solid wood and clothes) and 320 bucks.
Inside the cube is 16GB of ram. I bought that much for 60 bucks early 2025, same thing is now 230 bucks.
Not everyone can buy it for sure but it's simply showing how AI is pricing people out of computing.
nohhue@gkrnours @aburtch @jalefkowit yeah the pricing is "reasonable" when you understand the hardware market insanity at the moment.
Still overpriced, but thats completely out of Valves hands. It's not a day one purchase for me, but I'll probably get one in a year if they don't hike prices for the novelty.
:: Asta ::@jalefkowit very curious what the price point was before all the memory price gouging
gnate@aud
I have a vague recollection of a projected price of $700, but I have nothing other than my own faulty memory to rely on. I'm sure that would have been the base model.
@jalefkowit
I have a vague recollection of a projected price of $700, but I have nothing other than my own faulty memory to rely on. I'm sure that would have been the base model.
@jalefkowit
scarlett@jalefkowit welp, nevermind I guess
Thomas Fuchs@jalefkowit Wtf does semi-custom mean
Erebus@thomasfuchs @jalefkowit Probably that its not the same model of any of the AMD CPU or GPU you can buy in tech outlets but its an under or oversized of one of them. (Maybe a Ryzen 5 9600 but with the clock speed and energy consumption tweaked to meet some noise/heat/performance criteria).
Crazypedia won't Comply 🧿@jalefkowit the (steam)pipeline of 'oof' to 'fffffuuuuu' is real?
i guess making computer memory unaffordable is one way to prevent linux adoption too
i guess making computer memory unaffordable is one way to prevent linux adoption too
Joakim Fors@jalefkowit thanks slop monglers. 
tkissing@jalefkowit Even if I still had my SoCal software salary I would not want to get that. On a German software salary this isn't even anywhere near a consideration. "Sorry family, no vacations the next 12 months, daddy needed another device to play the same games on he doesn't have time for anyway"
edit: fuck AI for causing this!
Viss@jalefkowit i wonder if i can install a jellyfin client on it :D
Мя ��@Viss yes
it's basically just a Linux desktop computer
So, the question is, can you afford it to install anything
Dave 🐶
Baloo Uriza@jalefkowit $1500 for a game console? That better come in my choice of custom finish, not just some dorky faceplates.
FinFangFoomed@BalooUriza @jalefkowit it's not meant to be a console 🤷♀️
@FinFangFoomed @BalooUriza Let's not get pedantic, please. It's a device you plug into your TV to play games on.
@jalefkowit @BalooUriza I'm not being pedantic. It's a computer. You can use it for video editing, you can expand it, and you can even install different operating systems. And like pretty much every other computer on the market, yes, it can be plugged into a TV instead of a traditional monitor.
@FinFangFoomed @jalefkowit @BalooUriza Its a gaming PC. Its mainly marketed towards gaming, yes, but you can also do anything you would do with a PC. Just like a regular prebuild gaming PC you can buy anywhere, but with a case designed to stay in a living room and with linux instead of windows. Shame is that hardware prices went nuts because of AI cringe lords wanting to burn the whole planet.
@Erebus_Amauro @[email protected] @[email protected] watch out, they might block you too because they're embarrassed they don't know the difference between a dedicated gaming console and a full featured computer that's literally being marketed as full featured computer 😅
@Erebus_Amauro You have described any video game console from the sixth generation (2000) to present.
caramel beurre salope
Spoontaneous ConsumptionI'll sell you this one for 800
https://freiburg.social/@manu/115589358766678679
Spoontaneous Consumption (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image Forget the #steamframe and get hold of a #Framework #Steam!
I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑🔥@jalefkowit Sure, but the web page makes a great point.
"There's an LED strip, y'all!"
Farhan Ahmed@jalefkowit I, like many of of the folks was looking forward to this… but this price point… 🫠
https://effinbirds.com/post/816611784119156736
https://effinbirds.com/post/816611784119156736
@jalefkowit Seem like Steam Machines are doomed to flop for whatever reason. This time Valve did a nice thing but even they can't get parts for a reasonable price, which is a pity because this would had been the point of entry for many people to linux. AI cringe bros are firmly decided to expel anyone from having hardware.
unevil_catram and vram sounds like a joke for that price
looks like the case is completely closed also.
That Old Guy with the Beard@unevil_cat
Nope! They’ve said from the start that you can pop it open and add RAM or whatever else you want to take out or put in. As long as there’s physical room, obviously. “It’s your gaming PC. We can’t tell you what to do with it!” But, again, you have to have the room inside.
@jalefkowit
Nope! They’ve said from the start that you can pop it open and add RAM or whatever else you want to take out or put in. As long as there’s physical room, obviously. “It’s your gaming PC. We can’t tell you what to do with it!” But, again, you have to have the room inside.
@jalefkowit
Aldin The Mage@jalefkowit This is unfortunately about what I expected with the current market.
Having recently priced out a similar spec build, it's not more expensive than custom at the moment.
I've had a custom PC setup for well over a decade and I know the market fluctuates a lot, but man do I miss the golden age when you could build a reasonably mid-range gaming PC from scratch for sub $800 - $40 SSDs, $200 GPUs - we had it good.
Steve Hersey@jalefkowit
Sad, but neither unexpected nor Steam's fault. Effing datacenter AI techbros.
Sad, but neither unexpected nor Steam's fault. Effing datacenter AI techbros.
Guillotine Jones, Flâneur@jalefkowit
Is this price in US dollars?
Is this price in US dollars?
AN/CRM-114@jalefkowit sure looks like the guy who was supposed to negotiate a manufacturing deal for the first run of these things spent the last six months asleep under his desk and just woke up this morning and called his golfing buddy at Supermicro
Binks@jalefkowit Maybe I'm the weirdo here, but that doesn't seem like that bad of a price for the specs. 6 core high-end processor, high-end graphics card, 24 gigs memory. The specs are way more than I'd ever use, but if you're looking to get a near top-end gaming PC this seems to be in the ballpark and the price is roughly what near top-end pre-built gaming PCs have always been.
decapitae@jalefkowit priced themselves right out of my future, they did
Dave bauer@jalefkowit One thing I think is that the controllers are quite expensive these days, but I wonder if they are more powerful that say an Atari 2600.
Nosaj 
Both my secondhand laptops have more ram lol
Bill, organizer of stuff@jalefkowit 299.99 without the SSD or the RAM.
Glyph@jalefkowit thank's openai
Gary 
@jalefkowit ouch! A grand was going to be my upper limit. That’s just unjustifiable for me 🙁