Every one is a #Linux expert until they try to install #Nvidia drivers on a fresh Debian install 👩🏻‍💻
@nixCraft on arch...

@rodolforg @nixCraft IDK, to be honest the three times I've had to install Arch on a machine with Nvidia it's "just worked" every+ time. At least it's not been any worse than the rest of the "choose your own adventure" of wiki pages that is installing Arch at the best of times? 

+ The very first time I did it, I got a black screen on X, but that was because I just grabbed a GT710 which was unsupported - swapped it out for a 1050Ti and it lit right up.

@fwaggle @rodolforg @nixCraft Indeed; I was always fiddling with drivers on Debian-based distros, but with Manjaro (arch-based) everything just worked straight out of the box.

I was deeply impressed. I've *never* had that happen with a fresh linux install on a laptop before.

@bluewinds @fwaggle @rodolforg @nixCraft But have you ever tried compiling chromium with hardware acceleration in angle and not vulkan  

@nixCraft

I can do "sudo apt-get update"

I'm definitely an expert

@nixCraft its all fun and games til they drop support for your gpu and the kernel wants to be updated.
@nixCraft they can install it as an expert, no one have clearly stated debian must still work after the installation 😂
@nixCraft I think I did that once, years ago. Since Debian 13 my desktop crashes from time to time.

@nixCraft
I started with current and worked backwards...

Then next PC I avoided Nvidia as I don't really play games now.

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@nixCraft If you're a Linux expert you don't have nvidia hardware. 😎
@dalias @nixCraft
Yes. What i came here to say lol
@nixCraft ...*gives up*... installs nouveau
@nixCraft I would NEVER profess to be a Linux Expert!
@nixCraft nvidia-dkms still a thing ?
@julienw @nixCraft
I installed it recently on an ubuntu 22.04 and I have no idea if it will work on next update.
@gunstick
In my debian experience, this is working well
@nixCraft
@nixCraft I got peer-pressured to set up NixOS on a T480 with Nvidia GPU... and the crazy thing is, *it just works* (after following just two or three instruction pages)! And with nix, I know I won't need to figure it out again. Possibly. Maybe. Hopefully.
@aceryz you got peer pressured? Like what does that even mean?!
@scottytrees Many good people in my hackerspace use NixOS. And when you see that all the cool kids do it...
@aceryz so you weren't peer pressured, you just wanted to fit in and belong and be like everyone in the group. that's not peer pressure , that's just conforming to a group think bruh.

@scottytrees "Akshually" is strong with this one...

Have a good day, "bruh".

@aceryz I got peer pressured to tell you to have a good day also, "bruh" 🤣️
@nixCraft That hits me where I live.
@nixCraft You gotta get a fresh kernel from backports (or something)
@nixCraft Over the last few years, I’ve never had any problems apart from the drivers themselves: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
NvidiaGraphicsDrivers - Debian Wiki

@nixCraft Every time I upgrade the kernel and reboot I prepare for my Nvidia card to go missing.
@nixCraft At least that distro won't ask you how old you are when you install it.
@nixCraft
Working OK in my Linx Mint machine after some fiddling about . . .
@nixCraft What's the problem? I had at least a 50% success rate doing that. I've even managed to get an app to recognize the math engine on an ATI/AMD video card although that really almost needed waving a dead chicken.
@nixCraft worse than compiling kernels from sources?
@nixCraft full walkthrough guides on your way to a powerful llm install https://www.hotconfig.com/studentllm-examinin/
StudentLLM - Qwen2.5-coder-7b-instruct-q6-k / Qwen3.5 Agentic on a Ryzen 5-2600/ 3060ti. Production LLM or not? YES!

We Look a StudentLLM setup to get as much productivity out of limited hardware as we can.

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@nixCraft Linux experts don't buy NVidia.
@nixCraft been there, done that!
@nixCraft as soon as i get it working, i always apt hold the packages and only update when i know i can suffer a few hours of downtime.
@nixCraft would you mind to correct your fake Bezos quote?
@nixCraft that's why I use Bazzite
@nixCraft of all the methods I've tried over the years, this is what works best for me:
install the official cuda toolkit repo via the network (deb) installer, and then install the drivers only.
https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads
CUDA Toolkit 12.1 Downloads

Get the latest feature updates to NVIDIA's proprietary compute stack.

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Why do you think it is difficult?
@nixCraft My last Nvidia card was a GTX680. Since then I've run strictly AMD because of the driver idiocy. I hear it's much better now.
@nixCraft After many years of buying a new PC. But NVIDIA was banned as hardware.

@nixCraft friends don't let friends buy nvida

in fact, everyone on this planet would be better off if nvida had never existed. Their enablement of LLMs is proof.

@nixCraft lol im getting ready to do that right now

@nixCraft

I had to do this on arch recently for a dual gpu laptop.
It sucked (especially getting vulkan working...)

I would hate to even imagine on Debian...

@nixCraft it's surprisingly doable if you ignore the ambient noise and only follow the CUDA documentation.
Turns out, when it's for gaming, no one cares.
But when it's for AI or companies in general, the doc works.