I am really starting to loathe the “sovereignty” framing of open source sustainability, or data privacy, or whatever. It would be good to have a better tech community less beholden to the interests of multinational corporations, more globally distributed, etc, but when you have a problem and you think “I know what would make this better. Intense German, French, and English nationalism” now you have like… at least five problems
@glyph That is not what the word means to me.
To me it means my own sovereignty, personal, individual over my hard and software. My own self. Autonomy. And the same for every other individual.
And that's how and why I am going to continue to use it. I will not surrender that word to anyone. Kind of the point of it.
@bmaxv technically speaking “sovereignty” and “autonomy” are synonymous in some contexts, those contexts all carry the implication of collective authority, and in particular independent nation-states, where the individual is only referred to as things like “self-sovereign” by analogy to a state. The word “sovereign” derives from the latin “super” meaning above, over. The sovereign is the supreme authority above all. you can use the word how you like but it will not be widely understood that way
@glyph I'm respectfully asking you to add that meaning to your... brain space?
I hate being the ackshully guy, please try to see the situational comedy over the cringy nature of doing it, but it's actually in the dictionary:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sovereignty
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sovereign
It's a pretty important concept to me, that's why I am pushing back on this so much.
Definition of SOVEREIGNTY
Definition of 'sovereignty' by Merriam-Webster
@bmaxv yes I read that to confirm my understanding before replying. I even preemptively conceded that “autonomy” is technically in its set of definitions. Look holistically at the set of definitions and usages, not just the fact that it’s there
@glyph @bmaxv also "autonomy" is right there as a word with a lot less negative connotations.
On the one hand, autonomist Marxists.
On the other hand, Frank Furedi.
@catch56 @bmaxv I don’t know who Frank Furedi is yet but this thread makes me feel like I am going to find out soon and also that I am gonna be SUPER mad about it
@glyph @bmaxv this is outdated, it doesn't cover his protégés joining the Brexit Party (now Reform) then going into the House of Lords and Boris Johnson's administration, and it also doesn't cover Furedi running an institute funded by Orban, but it covers everything up until those points pretty well.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n13/jenny-turner/who-are-they
Jenny Turner · Who Are They? The Institute of Ideas
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