A note from one of my favourite authors at the moment.
@thirstybear Also, fire does have constructive uses. Not so LLMs.

@jmax

@thirstybear I think they mean machine learning, not llms

@yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

LLMs are like AN/FO explosive when compared to most uses of machine learning style fire.

"You object to me blowing up your house but I see you using a gas stove."

@resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear You probably use an ML system every time you spend money - every transaction is fraud scored at some point, some multiple times.
@TimWardCam
*Someone* (bank or payment processor) uses ML (edit: which are not LLMs) to check my transactions, not me and not (usually) the party I'm actively engaging with. What was your point?
@resuna @yugthebug @jmax @thirstybear

@ScriptFanix @TimWardCam @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear If you use the term AI in modern language, you're talking about LLMs. Part of the scam is to pretend that they are synonyms, and they've won that fight.

You're helping with the con by continuing to refer to actual useful technologies as "AI".

Scalzi meant AI in the colloquial sense of LLMs. Stop playing "well actually" games that only benefit con artists.

@jmax 💯
They (LLM pushers) successfully took over the meaning of "AI". Let us all accept that and use more specific terms when we mean something else. AI has never been a well defined term anyway and can be used to describe about anything
@TimWardCam @resuna @yugthebug @thirstybear

@ScriptFanix @jmax @TimWardCam @yugthebug @thirstybear

Don't refer to any of them as AI, just because they're lying doesn't mean you have to lie too.

@LeBonk @ScriptFanix @jmax @TimWardCam @yugthebug @thirstybear

I just call them LLMs. AI is a field of research. LLMs are a spin-off, but they're not AI in the science fiction sense anymore than a Fisher Space Pen is a rocket just because it's a spin-off of the space industry.

@resuna @ScriptFanix @jmax @TimWardCam @yugthebug @thirstybear
yeah but this also includes image generators and things that maybe can't be accurately described as dealing with "language" in its output
Kate Crawford's term "large-scale computing" is also good as a reminder that these things are really just the same sort of thing we've had for a while, but bigger, more resource-intensive, and more exploitative
@resuna
@ScriptFanix @jmax @TimWardCam @yugthebug @thirstybear
also if you wanna be more specific, u can say something like "plausible sentence generator", "plausible image generator", "plausible code generator", or whatever
so, for example, Minnesota recently banned plausible nude generators