witchescauldronJun 7

People in general don't yet see the need to move beyond the #feudalism that shapes much of #FOSS governance. Because of this energy goes into defending existing structures and #blocking alternatives before they've have a chance to prove themselves.

That's one reason the #OGB approach is simple: build it permissionlessly and let it loose. People will see the value, or they won't.

The goal isn't to convince a small group of gatekeepers. It's to empower a much larger group of people to participate in technology, build consensus, and push the social agenda they actually need.

Less permission. More practice. It's a #KISS approach to #openweb governance.

#OMN #Fediverse #4opens

Show threadMohammed David

@witchescauldron I am wishing to know more about this. I believe that mastodon in on the right track with their federatedness but, is it also possible to take the decentralization concept all the way to the individual level? I know that it is possible to host your own instance but, can everyone do that?

I like the hook-line that this essentially amounts to a form akin to feudalism.

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Show threadvolkrisJun 7

@mohammedDavid

Unfortunately, the tech behind Mastodon/Fediverse made engineering decisions to center around instances and not people. It's not really capable of decentralizing down to the individual level because it's designed otherwise.

Other platforms like Bluesky took the other approach and are user-centered.
@witchescauldron

Show threadwitchescauldron6d ago
@volkris @mohammedDavid yep they did this as humans are community based not individual, so it's a counter #mainstreaming path https://hamishcampbell.com/?s=mastodon
Show threadvolkris6d ago

@witchescauldron did you mean to link to a specific article? I don't know what you mean by counter mainstreaming.

In any case, I'd counter (ha) by saying putting users at the core allows them more ability to choose their likely multiple communities. Or stick with one, or none.

@mohammedDavid

Show threadwitchescauldron6d ago

@volkris @mohammedDavid

Yep, it's a question of balance not dogma. Our current thinking in tech and wider society is very out of balance due to 50 years worshipping a #deathcult

This is the mess I am talking about composting.

Show threadMohammed David6d ago

@witchescauldron

This is very well written and I would agree that the fediverse should be seen as a *means* but, not the *end*. There is a clear opportunity to construct a new system where todays fediverse is a model of a component.

We now only must promote other available software which can help in the goal of rendering outdated centralized social-media services completely obsolete.

@volkris

Show threadvolkris5d ago

@mohammedDavid

One thing to keep in mind is that fediverse isn't just an abstract concept or principle. This system of communication based on ActivityPub is an engineered machine that functions as per a specific design.

In other words, it IS an *end*, one that might not match the *end* you have in mind.

Fediverse is defined as being centralized around instances. I think that follows outdated models and was a mistake, but it is what it is.

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Show threadwitchescauldron4d ago

@volkris @mohammedDavid

There are different realities and the world is often not what you think it is https://hamishcampbell.com/?s=fediverse